Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site ISM780B.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!think!ISM780B!jim From: jim@ISM780B.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Jerry Falwell and the Moral(?) M Message-ID: <39000027@ISM780B.UUCP> Date: Sun, 24-Nov-85 15:30:00 EST Article-I.D.: ISM780B.39000027 Posted: Sun Nov 24 15:30:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 29-Nov-85 22:07:11 EST References: <63@yale.UUCP> Lines: 17 Nf-ID: #R:yale:-6300:ISM780B:39000027:000:969 Nf-From: ISM780B!jim Nov 24 15:30:00 1985 Jefferson, Paine, Franklin, and some of the others were Deists. They held the post-Newton clockwork view of the universe; they believed that God set the clock running and then went off to do other things. They were not Christians! Jefferson believed in Christ's moral message but not his divinity. His phrase "... endowed by their Creator ..." is fairly neutral, not the Lord God or something like that. "In God we trust" was added by some Christian nearly century later. As long as House and Senate members can have access to a chaplain or equivalent regardless of their religion I don't see it as a violation of CvsS. But government agencies paying for public religious displays seems to me a clear violation of the BofR. I get three Christian TV channels all the time, a couple more at night, and it is just about the only thing on on Sunday evening. Plus all the radio stations. I think they can afford to put up their own displays. -- Jim Balter (ima!jim)