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From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: "We will bury you." -Khruschev
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Date: Mon, 25-Nov-85 10:48:08 EST
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Posted: Mon Nov 25 10:48:08 1985
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In article <13409@rochester.UUCP> ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank) writes:
> I suppose Khruschev never beat his desk with his fists while other speakers
> at the United Nations tried to talk, or I suppose he never took off his shoes
> and beat the heals against the podium.  Nice behavior for a world leader.
> How embarassing if Reagan or any other president did this.

We all know that the personal style of a world leader is the most telling
characteristic of an entire nation, right?  Which must be why we're
represented by a president who dozes during cabinet meetings and can
hardly keep straight which nation he's visiting.

> Khruschev's behavior was a frightening caricature of a disturbed little boy
> who wasn't getting his way.  With a disturbed personality such as this, 
> would it surprise anyone if he said "We will bury you or We will survive you?"
> What did he mean 'survive us'?  After a nuclear attack, Russia will be alive
> and America will be dead?  Food for thought here.

And now for another episode of "Ray Frank, amateur psychoanalyst"!  The only
food for thought I perceive is how farcically misleading your arguments are.
Kruschev was talking about competition of political systems, not particularly
about war.

> Did Khruschev say: "We won't have to defeat you from outside, you will be
> defeated from within, and your youth will raise our flag?"  Communists causing
> unrest over here?  Hmmmm.

Actually, unrest is due to disenfranchisement (of power, representation,
wealth, human rights, whatever): revolution (not necessarily communist)
is merely one channel for the unrest.  We can most effectively preserve
our society by addressing our own internal inequities, rather than by
looking for commies under the bed and building another generation gap.

> Sometimes I get the impression from the responses on the net that some
> youths already have their hands on the flag pole rope.

I should hope so.  Far better that than you and your little clique be the
only ones allowed near it.
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Mike Huybensz		...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh