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From: martillo@hector.UUCP (Yakim Martillo)
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Subject: Re: Re: Middle East, Oil and the costs of Militarism
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Date: Fri, 29-Nov-85 07:47:33 EST
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In article <1154@cornell.UUCP> amr@cornell.UUCP (Amr El Abbadi ) writes:
>In article <941@homxb.UUCP> mr@homxb.UUCP (M.RINDSBERG) writes:
>>> 
>>> No, Palestinians lived there long before the Arab conquest. Your argument
>>> would be similar to saying that Egyptians or Syrians have been living in
>>> their respective countries only since the 7th century, since that is when
>>> the Arabs came!
>>> 		Amr El Abbadi
>>> 
>>Actually, what difference does it make what year the arabs invaded and
>>took over the country. The Jews were there before and for a longer
>>time than the arabs. And Moreover if you want to use the argument
>>that since the arabs captured the country in the 7th century and
>>killed or threw out as many Jews as there were THEN we now can
>>use the same argument about the current status of Israel that we
>>invaded and captured and should now throw the arabs out.
>>
>>mark
>
>That was not at all what I was saying. My argument is that the Palestinians
>as a people had been living in the land of Palestine long before
>the Arab conquest. By Palestinians, I am also including Jewish and
>Christian people who have been living there. The Arabs did not throw
>the Jews out nor did they throw any other inhabitants  of the land.
>		Amr El Abbadi


What is this nonsense about a Palestinian identity in previous centuries?

In Roman times, basically Greeks, Nabateans, Jews, Samaritans and a very
tiny number of Saracens lived in the Land of Israel.  These people had
no common identity and very cordially hated each other.

Islam began with the expulsion or murder of Jews in Hejaz.  While such
treatment has not been official Islamic policy over the millenium, such
treatment has been common enough that the local Jewish community in
Palestine was hardly unhappy when European, Morrocan, Libyan, Persian and
Yemenite Jews began showing up in the 1860's and later.