Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!cca!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Orphaned Response (US aid to San Message-ID: <7800794@inmet.UUCP> Date: Thu, 28-Nov-85 18:25:00 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.7800794 Posted: Thu Nov 28 18:25:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Dec-85 20:47:52 EST References: <673@spar.UUCP> Lines: 41 Nf-ID: #R:spar:-67300:inmet:7800794:000:1940 Nf-From: inmet!janw Nov 28 18:25:00 1985 [baba@spar] >> Having sold the Nicaraguan people down the river with its aid to >> the Sandinistas, the US has an OBLIGATION to at least match that >> with aid to the resistance. >I hope someone has some verifiable figures handy. The Carter ad- >ministration committed a few million to the Sandinista regime >shortly after they took power ... I hope so too. More than $100 million is the figure I recall. And then there was international aid endorsed by USA. >At the time that the aid was offered, there were still significant democratic >and nationalist factions within the Sandinista directorate. Offering aid >in an attempt to strengthen their position was both morally and realistically >a reasonable thing to do. I fail to see how doing so "sold the Nicaraguan >people down the river", when the Sandinistas were already in power and >indeed were at the peak of their popularity. I have no doubt it was an honest mistake. Therefore, "sold down the river" is a harsh expression. This was a one-liner in response to some flaming rhetoric, not a dissertation. However, if it *was* a mistake that strengthened, not the democratic fac- tions, but the totalitarian core, and gave a push down the slip- pery slope of totalitarianism,- *if* this opinion of mine is true - the moral obligation is there. >People of a Manichean bent will doubtless take this as an endorsement of >the Sandinista regime. They will be mistaken. I hope you don't mean me. I detest Manichaeanism. I see much good not just in nice pink moderates like you but often in the most flaming reds. In fact, my maternal grandfather was a close col- laborator of Lenin and among the 20 men who voted to make the disastrous Revolution. He was a decent guy, and I can prove it. So was (I think) Albert Speer, a close collaborator of Hitler. Human affairs are complex. Still, some *systems* are much worse than others. Jan Wasilewsky