Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!ut-sally!seismo!cmcl2!csd2!squires From: squires@csd2.UUCP (Charles S Squires Jr) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Concentration Camps Message-ID: <3630032@csd2.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Dec-85 15:09:00 EST Article-I.D.: csd2.3630032 Posted: Mon Dec 2 15:09:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 3-Dec-85 22:45:56 EST References: <979@utai.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 31 I do not think all jails can be called Concentration Camps. In fact, the concentration camps (now, I'm NOT talking about the death camps) of Nazi germany bore extremely little resemblance to American prisons. The Maze is is very much like an American prison and is not like a Nazi concentration camp. In any case, the crux of the debate is the nature of the people being imprisoned there, how/why they are being held, and how they are treated in their confinement (I think that's a politically neutral statement). I believe that no one has been starved there (rather, people have starved themselves), no one has been executed there, etc. For these reasons, I find it impossible to call the Maze a concentration camp without calling any American prison a concentration camp. In the course of a debate, one should not take too much time out to redefine the language, so let's go on NOT calling American prisons "concentration camps." Maybe we can argue whether or not the Maze holds "political prisoners". I support the internment of these prisoners (as if the British give two hoots about my support), yet I can see why someone would call the Maze a political prison, even though I disagree. I find it ridiculous for people to call the Maze a Concentration Camp. (To bring in a similar tactic... if you persist in calling the Maze a Concentration Camp, I'm going to say "Your comments sound like comments Adolf Hitler would have made."-- See, throwing around inappropriate, heavily slanted terms gets you nowhere). /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Charles Squires, Rm 619 WWH, | ARPA: squires@nyu-csd2.ARPA | | Courant Institute of Mathematical | UUCP: ...cmcl2!csd2!squires | | Sciences, New York University | CSNET: squires@nyu-csd2@csnet-relay | | 251 Mercer St, NY, NY, 10012 | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/