Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!ucdavis!ucbvax!decvax!cca!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Equality through Reaganomics ? M Message-ID: <7800838@inmet.UUCP> Date: Sat, 30-Nov-85 14:24:00 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.7800838 Posted: Sat Nov 30 14:24:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Dec-85 20:20:44 EST References: <110@ubc-cs.UUCP> Lines: 40 Nf-ID: #R:ubc-cs:-11000:inmet:7800838:000:1908 Nf-From: inmet!janw Nov 30 14:24:00 1985 [Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh] >> >>Of course there are other factors involved [...] >> >>That is why I added the (?). >> >> "Science begins and ends with a question". >Are you trying to tell us that your methods of analysis, article writing, >or opinion formation are science? Or are you trying to tell us that >appending a question mark to what you write makes it science? GOD FORBID (er... just between us atheists). But if science does that, we may do well to emulate her. Posing a question for discussion may produce better (or at least different) results than simply giving your answer for others to refute or agree. A couple of good substantive points have already been made on both sides with respect to my (?) title. (BTW: does the preceding imply - *because* I ended it with with (?) ? Who cares?) I didn't stick in that "science" quote to prove anything, but simply because I like it, as a kind of epigraph. The quote is probably inexact. It's from Karl Popper, but I couldn't place it. >>[a passage using the expression "large mind" (in answer to smtg >>on "small minds" by another poster) and with some flames in it] >My idea of large minds includes avoiding statements and attribu- >tions of intent (and other such fallacious meta-subjects and >red-herrings), and sticking to the basic subjects of the debate. >We all make those mistakes sometimes: let's try not to continue. Guilty as charged. Flames breed flames; attributions of intent are among the worst kind. Inquiries about individuals' "intellec- tual honesty" are of the same kind. A *meta-subject* - about what stuff is proper to post, or to object to - was, I think, a legi- timate (if boring) new subject of debate - if only it was treated calmly. I just posted a note on "What is Fit to Print". Any flames of mine you see will pre-date this response. Jan Wasilewsky