Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site ISM780B.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!bbnccv!ISM780B!jim From: jim@ISM780B.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Equality through Reaganomics ? M Message-ID: <39000041@ISM780B.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Dec-85 02:57:00 EST Article-I.D.: ISM780B.39000041 Posted: Mon Dec 2 02:57:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 6-Dec-85 20:33:02 EST References: <110@ubc-cs.UUCP> Lines: 26 Nf-ID: #R:ubc-cs:-11000:ISM780B:39000041:000:1478 Nf-From: ISM780B!jim Dec 2 02:57:00 1985 >Guilty as charged. Flames breed flames; attributions of intent >are among the worst kind. Inquiries about individuals' "intellec- >tual honesty" are of the same kind. A *meta-subject* - about what >stuff is proper to post, or to object to - was, I think, a legi- >timate (if boring) new subject of debate - if only it was treated >calmly. I just posted a note on "What is Fit to Print". Any >flames of mine you see will pre-date this response. I thought you were the one who likes to break taboos? One of the favorite taboos I like to broach is discussion of the internal consistency of people's statements and of the processes that lead to disagreement, which include differing use of language, fallacy, and conscious or unconscious lying. It is my firm belief that a major reason Ronald Reagan has that "teflon sticker" is because it is taboo in our media to call someone a liar, even if there is firm evidence. Of course, libel laws are not complete protection, which partially explains the ban. But I really believe that demanding honesty increases honesty since even the demander, once making the demand, will be held up to his own standard. You may totally disagree with me, but you should not criticize me too harshly for breaking taboos that I believe it is preferable to break. However, I have toned down a bit with the awareness that this taboo is being strongly defended. So implicit censorship has once again taken hold. -- Jim Balter (ima!jim)