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From: mr@homxb.UUCP (M.RINDSBERG)
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Subject: Re: Kahane & the State of Israel
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Date: Thu, 5-Dec-85 23:49:50 EST
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> In article <939@homxb.UUCP> mr@homxb.UUCP (M.RINDSBERG) writes:
>  [ >> is me]
> >> 
> >> The _New Republic_ article on Kahane ("A Jewish Monster") is recommended
> >> for anyone who wants to know what Kahane is really saying.  (This magazine
> >> takes a strongly *pro-Israel, pro-Zionist, anti-PLO* stance.)
> >> 
> >> He is quite explicit -- Arabs should be expelled, period.
> >
> >What is wrong with expelling the arabs ???? Obviously they are not happy in
> >Israel (i.e. terrorist actions, etc) so what is wrong with handing
> >them over to their brothers in 22 other muslim countries where they can live
> >however they please.
> >Actually the problem is that arabs in Israel are very happy.
> >Arabs in Israel live better than they would in any
> >other country in the middle east.There is wonderful social security, and they
> >do not have to serve in the army nor pay taxes.
> 
> I don't quite understand the meaning of this?!  The Arabs in Israel proper
> are neither eager to leave (they could easily do so) nor very happy.
> They are, however, at home, where their families lived before them.
> I suspect the claim that they pay no taxes is rubbish, but perhaps
> someone else can enlighten us.  
> If the Israeli Arabs are 'very happy', that would be yet another
> argument *against* expelling them.
> 
> >BTW,  Expelling is not a new thing, it has been performed many times before
> >with perfect results.
> 
> Yeah?  And many times with unpleasant results:  Spain 1492, Portugal 1496.
> Let's try Vietnamese boat people (many of Chinese ancestry).
> How about the Five Civilized Tribes of Florida, or the Nez Perce,
> or any of the other major American Indian tribes.
> Come on, you tell me, what are these 'perfect' expulsions.
> 
> I didn't say that Kahane's ideas were new (even for Jews, if we
> look back at the Maccabees).  I said they were sick.
> 
> >> BTW, everybody's favorite ultra-sicko Adolf Hitler won more than
> >> 12 Reichstag seats in 1932, so this argument doesn't overwhelm me.
> >> andy
> >
> >Some comparison !!!!
> >
> >				mark
> 
> If you (or more accurately, Ari Gross) wish to argue that Kahane is
> respectable because he might win 12 seats in the Knesset, then
> you *have to explain* why the same reasoning does not apply
> to Hitler.  This comparison was extreme and chosen deliberately
> to indicate that your argument is fallacious.
> andy

Kahane is NOT advocating the killing of anybody !!!! Hitler DID !
mark