Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ernie!tedrick From: tedrick@ernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Tom Tedrick) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Communism as historical tragedy Message-ID: <11069@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sun, 24-Nov-85 06:18:12 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.11069 Posted: Sun Nov 24 06:18:12 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 29-Nov-85 20:52:52 EST References: <28200256@inmet.UUCP> <28200260@inmet.UUCP> <364@ubvax.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: tedrick@ernie.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 17 One point I would like to make is that the collapse of the Russian empire was a consequence of World War 1, as was the collapse of the German and Austro-Hungarian empires. The world wars played a major role in weakening the British empire. Japan and Italy lost their empires as a consequence of WW2. There is too much emphasis on some kind of historical necessity leading to the collapse of these empires. They might very well still exist had their political leaders had the intelligence not to fight wars they did not have a high probability of winning. Anyway communism took hold in Russia only because the empire had already collapsed and a partial power vacuum existed, and they were ready and able to pick up the pieces. It seems absurd to me to think that the communists could have overturned the Tsarist regime without some external factor like a major war playing a role.