Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!mhuxv!mhuxh!mhuxj!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!bbnccv!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Strange Bedfellows Message-ID: <28200298@inmet.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-Nov-85 16:45:00 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.28200298 Posted: Thu Nov 21 16:45:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 29-Nov-85 21:01:13 EST References: <549@qantel.UUCP> Lines: 38 Nf-ID: #R:qantel:-54900:inmet:28200298:000:1586 Nf-From: inmet!janw Nov 21 16:45:00 1985 [Gabor Fencsik {ihnp4,dual,hplabs,intelca}!qantel!gabor ] I hope to return to Gabor's article, and I am sure others will. So, I feel free to do just a bit at a time. >So a discussion of the remarkable symmetries between the two camps >might be refreshing and also help break up the monotony of the ritual >Socialist vs. Libertarian slugfest for a while. A worthy goal. But that's the property of party spirit in gen- eral. Liberal vs. Conservative is even worse. In addition to your "remarkable symmetries" (all negative) it would be nice if someone could make a list of what they thought *positive* features in these two (and other) camps. That could be a base to build on. >The most obvious traits shared by libertarians and socialists are matters >of style: a strident tone of moral superiority ... Have you read the two Friedmans ? Do you detect that tone ? (I'll grant you Ayn Rand in this respect). >... frequent appeals to first principles ... That's their situation as weak minorities: they can't assume their principles are more or less recognized, and they can't appeal to practical politics at this stage. It has nothing to do with the *content* of their creed. You won't find Socialists in power spending much time on first principles. >... and, shall we say, a selective approach to history. Do you mean they *distort* it (some do, I'm sure) or that they select what is relevant to them ? The latter is as legitimate as a strategist concentrating on military history, or an economist on economic history. [Till next time] Jan Wasilewsky