Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site gargoyle.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes From: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Apartheid on the West Bank (defining racism) Message-ID: <260@gargoyle.UUCP> Date: Fri, 29-Nov-85 19:21:15 EST Article-I.D.: gargoyle.260 Posted: Fri Nov 29 19:21:15 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 30-Nov-85 13:46:33 EST References: <4188@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <360@ubvax.UUCP> <614@unc.unc.UUCP> <366@ubvax.UUCP> <167@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Organization: U. of Chicago, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 48 Xref: lsuc net.politics:2228 net.politics.theory:584 >You tie too much to the racist being a member of a >powerful group. For instance, if a white refuses to do business with blacks >because "they'll cheat you every time," then your definition would make that >white racist. On the other hand, if a black refused to do business with >blacks for the same reason, then this black isn't racist; at least not by >your definitions. I think we spoil a useful term if we blur the distinction between racism and prejudice or bigotry. Some time ago I posted a number of definitions of racism from dictionaries and encyclopedias, and the general idea seemed to be that racism is an ideology or belief-system which holds that an ethnic group is innately inferior, intellectually and/or morally, to one's own, and which has the function of justifying keeping this group in a subordinate position in society. Thus if an American black says, "All honkies are alike. You can't trust them -- they'll get you every time," his statement is prejudiced and bigoted, but not racist, properly speaking, because his views are not part of an ideology which justifies "keeping whites in their [subordinate] place." Prejudice is perhaps a universal phenomenon in human history, but racism is perhaps a phenomenon of modern history. It arose as a result of the domination of black peoples through enslavement and colonialism. We tend to forget that racist views were considered respectable (among whites) in the 19th century and before. How else could such an enlightened man as Jefferson have been a slaveowner? Racism, then, is not just a disposition to prejudge people by their color or ethnicity -- it also includes an ideological component (the supposed innate inferiority of the group, their having smaller brains, a "backward" culture, etc.) to lend intellectual and moral respectability to domination. Suggested reading: the article on "Racism" in the *Encylopedia of Philosophy*. About anti-Semitism: Blacks are looked down on because they are supposedly inferior, but they are tolerated or even liked as long as they "stay in their place." Jews are hated because they are *different*. Jews have a strong group identity and resist assimilation into the prevailing culture, and this strong and opposed identity is perceived as a threat by a person whose own sense of identity and integration is weak and who derives security from having everyone else think like himself (a certain individual, no longer posting to net.politics, is a good example). The extreme response to this is to try to get rid of the Jews, and I think this psychological dynamic may be the root of the persecution of Jews, at least in modern Europe. The Arab-Israeli conflict, however, seems to have different origins. -- Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes