Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!pesnta!phri!cmcl2!csd2!meth From: meth@csd2.UUCP (Asher Meth) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Middle East, Oil and the costs of Militarism Message-ID: <3780106@csd2.UUCP> Date: Tue, 12-Nov-85 18:39:00 EST Article-I.D.: csd2.3780106 Posted: Tue Nov 12 18:39:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 15-Nov-85 21:13:45 EST References: <740@whuxl.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 51 Hisham Sweillam writes : >The fact is Arabs in the west bank and elsewhere are being evacuated >from their homes to make room for new settlements. I've heard this claim used many a time. In some cases it may be true (I can't prove it to be totally false). However, I can name a number of settlements for which this statament is totally false. Many settlements are built (as I wrote in a previous posting) on empty, barren, rocky hills, that have not been inhabited for years and years (I am tempted to write centuries). No one has been living on these hills; no one was displaced from these hills when the new settlement was built. In fact, AFTER some of these settlements were built, some Arabs came along and built houses (actually, they are mansions) across the road to try to contain the growth of the settlement. And do all of you know where these Arabs get the money to build these fancy multi-level homes ? From the oil-revenues of the rich Arab kingdoms and their sheiks - including Saudi Arabia. A typical example of this "house across the road from the settlement" is the house across the road from the entrance to Beit-El, which is about 20 (I'm not sure of the exact figure) kilometers north of Jerusalem. Just to name a few settlements built on empty, unpopulated hills : Beit-El, Shiloh, Ma'ale Levonah, Giv'at Levonah (now called 'Eilee), Mattityahu. ----------------------------------- I recently heard a statement attributed to Ariel Sharon about "how to solve the problem of rock-throwing from the 'refugee camps' at moving vehicles." The statement was made after numerous attacks (rocks, and bullets, too) on the busses travelling the Jerusalem-Hebron road on their way to Gush Etzion and Kiryat 'Arbah. The name of the camp is Daheishah (sp ?). He is reported to have said - after any such incident, raze the first row of houses closest to the road. If the attacks persist, raze the next row. Society has a way (or at least used to have a way) of convincing its fellow man who is not following the rules to conform. The neighbors would quite understandably be very unhappy at the prospect of having their houses razed, and would not allow the stone-throwers, etc. to use their homes as havens or as bunkers from which to attack, or to retreat to at will. Thus, those elements would be banished from the community, not allowing them the opportunity to have the neighborhood destroyed due to their non-societal and anti-societal actions. ------------------------------------------ Any comments ? or opposing points of view ? (as they say on the radio after an editorial; I expect that there will be.) ------------------------------------------ Asher Meth ....... meth@nyu-csd2.arpa ....... allegra!cmcl2!csd2!meth