Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site agrigene.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!seismo!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!agrigene!buchbind From: buchbind@agrigene.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: A query to "Dvar Torah" Message-ID: <241@agrigene.UUCP> Date: Fri, 15-Nov-85 20:09:10 EST Article-I.D.: agrigene.241 Posted: Fri Nov 15 20:09:10 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 17-Nov-85 13:04:52 EST References: <1201@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <2301@brl-tgr.ARPA> Organization: Agrigenetics Madison,Wi. Lines: 46 [] TO SUMMERIZE: > From: matt@brl-tgr.ARPA (Matthew Rosenblatt ) <2950@brl-tgr.ARPA> > It's easy! People who are born Jews have to believe more things, and > follow more rules, than people who are not. So a born non-Jew need only > follow the seven Noahide commandments, and he is OK. --- > From: notes@isucs1.UUCP <483@isucs1.UUCP> > you stated that you were taught that non-Jews > had their own religion and that it was good enough for them > but not good enough for you [ Jews ]. --- > From: barryg@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Lee Gold) <2455@sdcrdcf.UUCP> > By saying "non-Jews religion was good enough for them, but not for me," I > was basically referring to the Jewish tenet that non-Jews are only > obligated to obey the seven Noachic commandments. Jews have lots more > lawss to fulfill. Non-Jews can please God and inherit the World to Come > if they comply with the laws they are given. So can Jews but they have to > work harder. > You can always undertake > additional responsibilities in a contractual relationship. You can buck for > a more demanding and more fulfilling job. --- > From: teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) <2048@aecom.UUCP> > Jews and non Jews must believe the same thing. And that is that there > is only one G-D. Jews must keep more commandments tan non Jews but the basic > belief is the same. TO CONTINUE: Judaism introduced to the (western?) world the idea of a Universal God but it didn't introduce the idea of Universal Religion. That was done by Christianity. Judaism belives that it is the best religion/way to approach God for the Jews, but is not concerned with what Gentiles do as long as they obey the aforementioned 7 Noahic commandments. That is not to say that God does not require more of Gentiles than the 7 laws, but rather that Judaism has nothing to say on the subect. That Judaism believes that the Jews have a special (e.g. "chosen") relationship with God does not preclude other religions from having their own special - and different - relationships with God. -- Barry Buchbinder (608)221-5000 Agrigenetics Corp.; 5649 E. Buckeye Rd.; Madison WI 53716 USA {seismo!uwvax!|decvax|ihnp4}!nicmad!agrigene!buchbind