Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ucbvax!ucbjade!phoenix From: phoenix@ucbtopaz.BERKELEY.EDU Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion.jewish,net.nlang.africa Subject: Re: Apartheid on the West Bank Message-ID: <170@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Mon, 2-Dec-85 06:09:49 EST Article-I.D.: ucbjade.170 Posted: Mon Dec 2 06:09:49 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 3-Dec-85 04:48:35 EST References: <4188@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <360@ubvax.UUCP> <614@unc.unc.UUCP> <175@hector.UUCP> Sender: network@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: phoenix@ucbtopaz.UUCP () Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 37 Keywords: Hmmm..... Xref: lsuc net.politics:2249 net.religion.jewish:1640 net.nlang.africa:162 Summary: Some 'truths' have been used pretty loosely in this discussion... In article <175@hector.UUCP> martillo@hector.UUCP (Yakim Martillo) writes: >Moreover, the British government and the French government have taken >care that British and French remain voting majorities in their respective >nations. For both countries this has been a problem because many colonial >subjects had British or French citizenship. Can you back this up? I may have blinked, but I do not remember any law in Britain restricting voting of non-white citizens. Please enlighten us.... >Hardly any comment was made >about the action of these two governments because thier behavior was only >natural because for the vast majority of countries nationality is linked >with ethnic group. Israel has much more legitimate right to guarantee that >Muslims remain a voting minority since Muslims have a long history of >mistreatment of Jews and the Muslim leaders explicitly state that Muslims >will mistreat Jews again if Muslims get the chance. > >Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Uh....only natural? That leaves you on the wrong side of the Civil Rights movement. The U.S. was *definitely* a white society - at one point even solely WASP in terms of the eligable body politic. This needed to change, as Europe will need to. Noone should have the right to repress *people* because they are not of the "founders" ethnic origen, or because thier 'leaders'[did *every* muslim choose them?] have a 'history'. For the sake of Israel fledgeling democracy, however, I hope a settlement works out with the West Bank in other hands, and Israel not periled by that. That still does not mean repression of those within current borders is acceptable - the underlying current of your articles suggest you find ample justification. I hope I read you wrong.... 0 0 (Crises?.... What Crises?) ^ \_/ John {decvax,ihnp4,...the world}!ucbvax!ucbtopaz!phoenix