Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!mhuxv!mhuxh!mhuxi!mhuxf!mhuxm!abeles From: abeles@mhuxm.UUCP (J. Abeles (Bellcore, Murray Hill, NJ)) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism Message-ID: <493@mhuxm.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Dec-85 12:40:30 EST Article-I.D.: mhuxm.493 Posted: Fri Dec 6 12:40:30 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Dec-85 15:25:04 EST References: <301@cisden.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 21 > First, consider the situation of a Russian patriot today. He most > likely would welcome the destruction of the State, and that *because* of his > patriotism. The same applies, I would think, to anyone who denies the > legitimacy of the current government of his country. Are any anti-Zionists > of this sort? Zionism is not the advocacy of a State, it is the advocacy of a homeland for Jews in Palestine, so challenging the particular government in power in Israel is not anti-Zionism... > Second, a person might think that the existence of the State was > destructive of the real good of the people. For instance, it wouldn't be > inconsistent for me, a Catholic, to advocate the dissolution of the Vatican > City, if I thought that the existence of the Vatican as an independent State > was harmful to Catholicism. I think most non-Zionist Jews fit into this > category. Correct me if I'm wrong. Again, Zionism advocates the existence of a homeland for Jews, and is not related to the form of or even existence of a government there. Practically speaking, however, the government appears to be necessary, and if the Jews in question want there to be a government, they would appear to be defended in this aspiration by Zionism (because the essence of Zionism is that there be a homeland for the Jews in which they be free to organize however they feel appropriate).