Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site houligan.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!peora!ucf-cs!novavax!houligan!daemon From: daemon@houligan.UUCP Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Re: What is a yuppie? Message-ID: <200@houligan.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Nov-85 14:31:06 EST Article-I.D.: houligan.200 Posted: Tue Nov 26 14:31:06 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Nov-85 08:04:09 EST Sender: daemon@houligan.UUCP Organization: Gould Electronics, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Lines: 46 > [Me, being crotchety] > >> --Even back then, we knew damn well that we'd wind up compromising > >> a number of our oh-so-lofty principles, round off a few of the rough > >> edges here and there. But never, *never*, did any of us ever suspect > >> that our whole generation en masse would throw away the very essence > >> of the progressive ideals it held dear and spit on them. > > [Frank Silbermann] > > Get real, will ya'? Lofty principles and ideals of the 60's? > > Give me a break! Most of the 60's youth didn't even understand > > the slogans the spouted. It was merely fashion -- the cool thing > > to do at the time (and if you weren't cool, how could you hope > > to get laid?). Sure, a few of the New Left (read "communist") yippies > > knew what they were doing, but for most of the rest, it was just > > one big party. Seeing a few old films like "Getting Straight" > > (starring Elliot Gould and Candice Bergen) or "Fritz the Cat" > > (starring himself) will set you straight about the motivations > > and concerns of that time. > > Hmmm, so that's how it happened. Silly us. We didn't know which end > was up, just partying all the time and yelling dumb slogans. Well, > speak for yourself, Frank. No, don't. Sorry--I didn't mean that. > Don't sell yourself short, Frank. There was a war on, and everybody's > ass was on the line, and the Revolution was just around the corner. > Maybe it was a pipe dream (considering what was in the pipe), but we > did believe it. We wouid transform a sick society into one big co-op. > > Of course, Madison Avenue was hot on our heels, co-opting our values > wherever it could. And so was Hollywood, which through all those > outasight peace-and-love days steadfastly maintained the political > consciousness of a turnip. And still there were films that did hit > the mark. Not "Getting Straight", "Easy Rider". Or better, "THX 1138". > > Frank, if you were as peripheral to The Movement as your comments > indicate, I'm sorry. But don't knock it because you weren't there > in the streets. Then again, maybe that *is* a good reason to knock > it. You can't look at today's jazzercise/pasta salad/designer > culture and imagine you'll get another chance real soon. Sigh. > Ou sont les neiges d'antans? > -- > *** *** > JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** > ****** ****** 09 Nov 85 [19 Brumaire An CXCIV] > ken perlow ***** ***** > (312)979-7753 ** ** ** ** > ..ihnp4!iwsl8!ken *** ***