Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site prometheus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!prometheus!pmk From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.space,net.research Subject: Re: Star-Wars/Space Telescopes Message-ID: <201@prometheus.UUCP> Date: Sun, 17-Nov-85 06:21:07 EST Article-I.D.: promethe.201 Posted: Sun Nov 17 06:21:07 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Nov-85 03:25:35 EST References: <384@ukc.UUCP> Organization: Prometheus II Ltd., College Park, MD Lines: 76 Xref: watmath net.physics:3593 net.space:4755 net.research:342 > I consider myself fairly well up-to-date with the current advances in > the so-called "Star Wars" technology & research, but I realised something > today which had never occurred to me before: > > We all know how you can make a parabolic mirror by stretching a thin > film of aluminised plastic over a ring of metal or some other such > material, then using a vacuum pump to suck the film into the shape of > a parabola, but has this actually been achieved in space (ie en vacuo)? > Surely the principle demands that the pressure on the front surface is > greater than the pressure from the back? So in a vacuum, the pressure > would be equal from both sides, even with the vacuum pump, thus the > sheet of plastic would not deform into the required shape. Does this > then mean that the telescope would require a closed volume of gas in > front of the mirror, supplying a pressure, but also re-introducing > an absorbing medium for the light? This latter argument is certainly > one that I have never heard propounded. Does anyone know of any > experiments that have been carried out in a vacuum on this topic? > > Grant C. Blair > For ground based lasers blasting straight up out of the atmosphere the attenuation is approximately equivalent to the photon attenuation of one mile of air at sea level. This will change drastically once a few dozen thermonuclear hits kick up some glowing dust clouds. In any event a high speed of sound gases such as helium might work and their attenuation would be quite negligible when compared to the ground - space trip. Perhaps a better way would be to use an array of medium voltage small electron guns that would spray electrons like an ink jet printer except that the electrons would "coat" the plastic mirror with a variable density coating of charge. A rigid screen grid could act as an attractive ground. Leakage could be controlled with a very low pressure helium neon gas, for example. The reaction time might be fast enough for such a system. > [Is anyone out there willing to sponsor me to do Stars Wars research? Please?] The congress to date has been too gutless to pass the Senate version of the budget bill. Consequently the government is under a ECR which really screws the lid down on SDI. Also there is a need to "grand stand" with spectacular "demos" to keep the democrats in congress happy that something positive is happening in defensive defense development. That means the "IST" part of the program, (Innovative Science and Technology) which is where the later development of a truly effective program will come from, has taken some pretty debilitating cuts. Jim Ionson heads up IST and has to spend more time responding to twinkies than supporting the research of some really high risk but super high payoff concepts. What's really interesting is that some of this research promises to have a much greater and more positive impact on the later commercial development of space and other useful technologies. Consequently, the best source for Stars Wars research support is Eugene Velikov, (no relation to Velikovsky) of the Academy of Science, Moscow, a head of Kurchatov, and a mastermind of their own advanced Star Wars effort at Krasnaya Pachra and other Russian military labs, (so secure that even scientists from the "Eastern Allies" can not visit them). Incidentally, Velikov has lobbied Senator Pell and others against our new fledgling program and has served on disarmament committees. My own personal information is that the Russian program was in progress at least as far back as 1976. I suspect the Russians have made a monumental discovery and are not willing to share it with us, and if I am correct as to what is is, I don't blame them because in a few more years it will give them a massive military edge. I also think the concept of their program is considerably more aggressive (offensive) than ours. +---------------------------------------------------------+--------+ | Paul M. Koloc, President: (301) 445-1075 | FUSION | | Prometheus II, Ltd.; College Park, MD 20740-0222 | this | | {umcp-cs | seismo}!prometheus!pmk; pmk@prometheus.UUCP | decade | +---------------------------------------------------------+--------+