Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site uiucdcsb Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcsb!carroll From: carroll@uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Time Retardation Message-ID: <15700032@uiucdcsb> Date: Sun, 17-Nov-85 16:34:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcsb.15700032 Posted: Sun Nov 17 16:34:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Nov-85 04:03:03 EST References: <8511111807.AA01976@s1-b.arpa> Lines: 16 Nf-ID: #R:<8511111807.AA01976@s1-b.arpa>:-30:uiucdcsb:15700032:000:994 Nf-From: uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU!carroll Nov 17 15:34:00 1985 It is possible to see two things receeding from each other at 2c from YOUR point of view. The people on the ships, however, see something different. To transform their speed in YOUR reference frame, you have to use the transform (a+b)/(1+(ab/c*c)) where a,b are the speeds observed in YOUR reference frame. Note that if a,b = c (speed of light), then each ship sees the other receeding at (c+c)/(1+(c*c/c*c)) = c. So, no one ever sees something moving away from him at a speed greater than c, i.e. the speed of an object in an inertial frame is always <= c. This is in the same vein as the question "What happens if some ship is going at .9c and fires something out the front at .9c? Doesn't it go at 1.8c?". No, it doesn't. The ship sees it go at .9c, but the "stationary" observer sees it move at something less than c. (For an exact answer, switch to the ship reference frame, and compute the above as if the "stationary" observer and the object are moving at .9c in opposite directions).