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From: dietz@SLB-DOLL.CSNET (Paul Dietz)
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Subject: Phoenix
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Date: Tue, 26-Nov-85 16:38:21 EST
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> The whole problem, Dani, is that you are talking about building a spaceship
> with the safety factors of a 1980's aircraft. We are not IN the 1980's of
> space flight. 

I don't think ANYONE has ever built a spacecraft (or, at least, a
launching vehicle) with the safety of a modern airliner.  The shuttle
has come too close to disaster too many times, and hasn't flown often
enough to get out all the bugs.  Someone (OMB? DOD?) estimated that 1
or 2 shuttles will crash in the next 400 shuttle flights.

Perhaps we're in the 1930's of spaceflight, and the shuttle is the
American Hindenberg (it certainly has enough hydrogen in it...).