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From: jjc@houxl.UUCP (J.CARBONARO)
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Subject: Martin ruins A's staff?
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Date: Thu, 14-Nov-85 13:57:25 EST
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Posted: Thu Nov 14 13:57:25 1985
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<Also, if Billy Martin hadn't "ruined" a young staff at Oakland, nobody would
<have noticed the supposed "AL pitcher burn-out."  Fact is, many pitchers go
<200+ innings in a season without getting hurt.  Quite a few pitch 15 or so
<complete games in a season.  It just so happened that 5 of his all did that in
<one year, and then came up with various injuries.  How come nobody blames a
<manager when his best pitcher comes up lame when working a similar number of
<innings/complete games (Vukovich, Flanagan, ...). 

I tend to agree.  I remember reading (constantly) how many innings of work
those 5 guys were getting.  Then, about a year or more ago, SI had a
"reunion" of those 5.  Seems that back in 1979 (or whatever year it was),
SI did an article on them, and then they did a "where are they now" piece.
I don't know whether it's blind loyalty or what, but 4 of the 5 guys stated
EMPHATICALLY that their current troubles (I think only one was still in the
majors) had nothing to do with Martin.