Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site polaris.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!linus!philabs!polaris!herbie From: herbie@polaris.UUCP (Herb Chong) Newsgroups: net.text Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Message-ID: <320@polaris.UUCP> Date: Wed, 4-Dec-85 21:07:58 EST Article-I.D.: polaris.320 Posted: Wed Dec 4 21:07:58 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Dec-85 04:35:27 EST References: <280@opus.UUCP> Reply-To: herbie@polaris.UUCP (Herb Chong) Organization: IBM TJ Watson RC Lines: 37 Summary: In article <280@opus.UUCP> rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) writes: >My major discomforts with wysiwyg are where there's not enough information >kept. What should be stored is the INTENT of the user--things like new >paragraph, outline number, etc., and not the RESULT of interpreting the >user's intent to put things on the page. Think of the stored form of a >document as a program--you want the user to be able to edit in terms of >the source code, not the object code! one thing that several people i know who design simple WYSIWYG text processing systems have problems with is how to remember what you did to make that complex {equation, diagram, etc.} over there so that you can make a new one over here. having a dedicated text processing workstation with bitmapped graphics and all that is nice, but it's also expensive. with my PCTeX, i can get by (just) with an Epsom until i upload to a mainframe and use a laser printer. this discussion reminds me very much of what must have gone on when interactive program development was first catching on and people were still using cards and batch processing. most people using terminals do "interactive batch". same with text processing these days, only the WYSIWYG text processors are by and large not very sophisticated yet. until the state of the art improves a whole lot, the average WYSIWYG editor gets a lot better, and the price of hardware drops even more, i'll stay with batch text processing because i can get more done. Herb Chong... I'm still user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble.... VNET,BITNET,NETNORTH,EARN: HERBIE AT YKTVMH UUCP: {allegra|cbosgd|cmcl2|decvax|ihnp4|seismo}!philabs!polaris!herbie CSNET: herbie.yktvmh@ibm-sj.csnet ARPA: herbie.yktvmh.ibm-sj.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa ======================================================================== DISCLAIMER: what you just read was produced by pouring lukewarm tea for 42 seconds onto 9 people chained to 6 Ouiji boards.