Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!vecpyr!amd!amdcad!decwrl!ucbvax!ernie!mazlack From: mazlack@ernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Lawrence J. &) Newsgroups: net.travel Subject: Re: Paris, France Message-ID: <11025@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 19-Nov-85 16:30:22 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.11025 Posted: Tue Nov 19 16:30:22 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Nov-85 10:01:27 EST References: <540@brl-sem.ARPA> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: mazlack@ernie.UUCP (Lawrence J. Mazlack) Distribution: net Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 40 >Lots of misinformation about France has appeared here recently. My >experience is that you'll find what you expect. If you make a >reasonable attempt to make yourself understood, French people will meet >you more than halfway. Remember, in France as in most European >countries, nearly everyone born since 1945 has studied English for >several years. > >Further, I found the French to be warm and friendly and generally not >anti-American. For the most part, I definately agree. I have been spending 2-3 months/year in Europe for the last 15 years. (Almost anyone can do this, if you are willing to give up the income.) My language skills are pretty marginal - a little French, a little German, a little Spanish (little means little, less than 100 words). I love Paris, it is a great place! I suspect that the people who have troubles there have trouble because of American arrogance. Many Americans (not Canadians), assume that (1) they are God's gift to the rest of the world, (2) all that is important in the world is money, (3) cultural values are of low importance, and (4) English is (or should be) spoken by all. They often tend to view their relationships with others in this framework. In my view, they should stay home and watch Dallas. Otherwise, when they get to Paris, they will find that their arrogance causes French arrogance in response. And the French know how to be arrogant. Actually, it isn't only the French who don't accept the American (items 1..4) of the world, quite a lot of others don't. But, others tend to ignore the American pretensions, where the French (especially the Parisians), twist it around and bounce it right back. I do agree with the suggestion of avoiding extended discussions using poor French in Paris. Try English first - many shop keepers understand it. However, if you try French first, they may insist that you pronounce it reasonably correctly before understanding. Use a dictionary to figure out menues. ...Larry Mazlack MAZLACK@ERNIE.BERKELEY.EDU