Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site oliveb.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!Glacier!oliveb!toml From: toml@oliveb.UUCP (Tom Long) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Otherwise Engaged Message-ID: <637@oliveb.UUCP> Date: Wed, 20-Nov-85 12:36:12 EST Article-I.D.: oliveb.637 Posted: Wed Nov 20 12:36:12 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Nov-85 04:07:25 EST References: <632@oliveb.UUCP> <570@tymix.UUCP> <633@oliveb.UUCP> <684@lasspvax.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca Lines: 52 > In article <633@oliveb.UUCP> toml@oliveb.UUCP (Tom Long) writes: > >[] > > I have often heard it said, "Behind every successful man stands > >a woman". I believe that this must at least in general be true. Among > >the benefits of a happy marriage is that the man carries a certain amount > >of flexibility and good-naturedness and level-headedness to work with him. > > By a man's flexibility in a "happy marriage" you must mean that the > wifey follows him wherever his career takes him, rather than having > any dedication to any career of her own. > > > I think one can sum up the experiences reported in the book by > >applying the same phrase in the opposite direction: "Behind every successful > >woman stands a man". > > Right. Mine irons my shirts for me every morning. Takes the kids to school. > Vaccuums the stairs. Throws lovely parties. Is even willing to go back > to work for awhile, if I decide to go back to school. > > > The women in the study who (when confronted with conflicts between > >career and marriage) chose to sacrifice their career progress in favor of > >the marriage were more successful in their *careers* in the long run, and > >on average. > > That's what they all say. If you made a decision like that (to sacrifice > career for marraige), you'd feel obligated to defend the validity of that > decision, too. How do they measure success, hmm? > > Cheryl The book we are referring to results from interviews with thousands of women and their husbands, friends, and colleagues, over a period of about 25 years. The women interviewed tended to fall into two classes: happy and bitter. Their associates agreed that the happy ones were successful and the bitter ones were failures, no matter how the subjects themselves chose to measure success. What I meant by a man's "flexibility" stemming from a happy marriage is that he can take disappointments at work and frustrations with life's nasty surprises in stride. I imagine that all of us can tolerate a certain amount of unpleasantness without becoming unpleasant ourselves; a happy marriage restores our flexibility each time we go home. (I believe the same thing is true for children. Children who live in a happy home carry a lot more flexibility to school with them, and into their eventual marriage, than children who live in an unhappy home.) In the particular case where a man's career requires moving and wifey wants to stay put, "flexibility" might mean staying in the same town, and it might mean taking a job with a different company. Tom Long