Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ubc-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!garfield!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!acton From: acton@ubc-cs.UUCP (Donald Acton) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Spot the difference Message-ID: <132@ubc-cs.UUCP> Date: Sat, 4-Jan-86 22:36:08 EST Article-I.D.: ubc-cs.132 Posted: Sat Jan 4 22:36:08 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 5-Jan-86 00:41:52 EST References: <130@ubc-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: acton@ubc-cs.UUCP (Donald Acton) Distribution: can Organization: UBC Department of Computer Science, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 62 Keywords: company, union, inflammatory, capitalist Summary: Somehow I think that Jamie wrote his article for me :-) In article <130@ubc-cs.UUCP> andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews) writes: > Consider the following two statements. > >- A worker helps his company make profits. If he really doesn't like the way > the company is using those profits (e.g. which political parties it is > supporting with them), he can and should quit his job. >- A worker helps his union make profits. If he really doesn't like the way > the union is using those profits (e.g. which political parties it is > supporting with them), he can and should quit his job. > ^ | union I think the word job should be changed to union, but that is the whole point, that one can't quit the union (or quit paying to it) unless he quits his job. If one doesn't like his company then he can quit or possible buy shares in the company and influence it that way. Likewise the worker could become actively involved in the union and try to influence it that way, if he could stand the pressure that some of these unions might exert upon him for objecting to the the "correct way of thinking". According to the "Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms" section 2.d everyone has the fundamental right of freedom of association. Although it doesn't state it this would imply to me that one also has the freedom not to associate. Section 6.2.b of the Charter says that a person has the right to pursue "the gaining of a livelihood in any province." If one has to join a union, against ones wishes, to gain employment in their chosen field then there seems to be a conflict between these two sections of the Charter. If the person selects to exercise right 6.2.b then they are being denied right 2.d and if they exercise that right then they are being denied the right to pursue their livelihood. However, if they didn't have to join the union (or implicitly support the union by paying dues) then this conflict would not arise. It seems to me that Jamie's article is partly prompted by some of the publicity concerning two people, one here in BC and one in Ontario, who are challenging the union practice of supporting directly or indirectly political parties. Art Kube, head of the BC Federation of Labour, is quite upset over these challenges to unions and doesn't view the individuals involved in a very charitable light. Art suggested that the rights of unions far exceeded the rights of an individual in this case. I disagree and think that unions should constantly have to demonstrate, by signing up members, that they are serving a useful purpose. If they force people to support them then like any organization they become an entity unto themselves and forget what they are really there for. So far I have only addressed unions but what about companies? Why should companies be allowed to make contributions to political parties and what purpose does it serve? I have heard it said that companies make contributions because they believe political parties need money to be able to properly express their viewpoints. I tend to be more cynical and think that it has more to do with keeping in the party's good books for possible future favours. Or maybe they just use it as a tax write off. If the latter is the case then maybe they should just make a contribution to general revenues providing they could get the same tax benefits. I wouldn't cry too much if both unions and companies weren't allowed to make political contributions. Donald Acton