Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!petrus!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!ulysses!ucbvax!info-ridge From: info-ridge@ucbvax.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.computers.ridge Subject: Re: general opinion from the user community Message-ID: <8512111844.AA16646@astrovax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Dec-85 13:44:19 EST Article-I.D.: astrovax.8512111844.AA16646 Posted: Wed Dec 11 13:44:19 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Dec-85 02:04:59 EST Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 23 Approved: info-ridge@hopkins-eecs-bravo.arpa The Ridge was purchased here as a number crunching computer to offload large floating point background jobs from our Vax 750. For this application I would say that the Ridge has been a success. There have been bugs found related to numerical computation on the Ridge but 4.2 BSD's f77 compiler for the VAX has hardly been an example to emulate in that respect. However for interactive use the Ridge is a disaster. At load average 3 the interactive reponse of the Ridge feels slower than the Vax does at load average 10. This is depressing for a machine that is supposed to be a fair amount faster than the Vax 750. The Ridge has 7 Mb of memory on it so I don't see how paging could be the problem. Our next system is a Sun 3 that will be dedicated to image processing. We'll see how that compares. The 68020 is reputed to be a hot chip. Sun now will give source to (most) of their software to educational institutions for $1000. As I have an undying hatred of binary-only software distributions this gives me another reason to prefer the Sun. The Microvax II was the main contender. Source for Microvax Ultrix for an educational institution is now $750. However we went with the Sun 3 on the assumption that it was faster and the display software somewhat more mature. Bill Sebok Princeton University, Astrophysics {allegra,akgua,cbosgd,decvax,ihnp4,noao,philabs,princeton,vax135}!astrovax!wls