Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!ucbvax!info-law From: Mills@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA Newsgroups: mod.legal Subject: Freedom of Silence? Message-ID: <851205222307.580241@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA> Date: Thu, 5-Dec-85 17:23:00 EST Article-I.D.: CISL-SER.851205222307.580241 Posted: Thu Dec 5 17:23:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Dec-85 01:41:10 EST Sender: bloom@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 46 Approved: info-law@sri-csl.arpa Hi there, I recently became curious about two aspects of freedom of speech and expression that I am uncertain about. Does anyone out there know anything about real cases involving issues like these? I am primarily interested in constitutional interpretations. The next two paragraphs talk about abstract principles and the last two about specific applications of them. Try to keep the principles in mind as you read the last paragraphs. First, does freedom of speech and expression include freedom of silence? I know this is not the case in court when you are asked to testify for or against someone other than yourself or spouse. Are there other times when you are legally required to make any statment? Second, does freedom of speech and expression ever take a back seat relative to someone else finding what you say or express repulsive? I know you can't yell fire in a theater, but that is endangering other people, not their disliking what you say. The reason I am asking about these points is I am active in the Naturist (free beach, i.e. clothing optional beach) movement. When I am at a beach that forces me to wear a bathing suit against my will I feel I am being forced to make the statment, "some parts of my body are discusting and unfit to be seen." I am being denied freedom of expression. I believe my body is just fine the way it is, why am I forced to make this statement? Is this constitutional? Can I not be silent on statments about my body by not hiding it? Some people who have heard this argument and have agreed with its logic have come back with the argument, "you may think your body is just fine, but there are some people out there who believe nudity is repulsive and who do not wish to be subjected to it." I believe that people who are particularly sensitive to being exposed to some things should try to avoid encountering them, i.e. if you don't like pornography you probably should not partronize "adult" book stores. Why should my expression of "my body is just fine" by way of not wearing anything at the beach be repressed because someone else might find nudity discusting? Are there other examples where one philosophical opinion is legally supported over another? When thinking of cases please don't fixate on cases explicitly involving nudity, but rather on freedom of silence and whether people like what you say. John Mills Disclaimer: These views are stickly my own and anyone else's who might care to share them with me.