Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!think!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest Message-ID: <861@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Wed, 1-Jan-86 10:08:47 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.861 Posted: Wed Jan 1 10:08:47 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Jan-86 23:36:16 EST Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 299 Approved: gds@mit-eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Wednesday, January 1, 1986, 10:10 Today's Topics: Moderator's Note Re: My ann-ann-anniversery (whu?) Question about "Mother Stands for Comfort" (2 msgs) Confusion Kate du Jour Become the envy of your KB fan friends, real cheap! [][][][][][][][][][] From: Greg Skinner Subject: Moderator's Note I apologize for the delay in getting out the mod.music/love-hounds digest. I was away for Christmas break. Thanks for all the submissions, and especially the words of encouragement. Keep 'em coming! --gregbo [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 12 Dec 85 11:49:03 EST From: Jim Hofmann Subject: Re: My ann-ann-anniversery (whu?) Tim you are wrong ... it was one hundred and thirty three (or was it four) ... uh, years since? what am i talking about? oh yeah, the results! all I remember is that is was a party celebrating the release of Candy-O by the Cars ... your're write --- haven't been the same since. "in someone's bathroom turning blue, puking green your seeing how it's 17 stars on your brain your drinking beer smoking weed nother acid tab nother shot of speed ... you are just a fish in a sea of human being lost and caught up in someone elsse's dream [intelligble] cause you might drown ..." - Dirty Rotten Imbeciles (from Dealing With It) "turn me to the monkey beat ... with vodoo on a sti-sti-sti-stick" - Whodini (Escape) [][][][][][][][][][] Posted-Date: 13 Dec 85 15:36:57 PST (Fri) Subject: question about "Mother Stands for Comfort" Date: 13 Dec 85 15:36:57 PST (Fri) From: tsung@aero On my nth listening to HoL, the song "Mother Stands For Comfort" again sent chills up my spine. If this is really a love song to Mother, then why does the arrangement give such a . . . haunted/chilling atmosphere to the song? For me, it conjures up an image of a huge house with an overpowering mother figure about to beat up little-girl-Kate in the corner shaking with fear. First time I heard the song (without paying attention to the rest of the lyrics), I thought Kate was being sarcastic, what with the title verse sung repeatedly aginst the background, plus that at one point she goes " . . . make me do this, make me do that . . ." So what do you experienced KBologists think? Do I have an association problem? [][][][][][][][][][] From: umcp-cs!aplcen!uucp@seismo.CSS.GOV Return-Path: Date: Fri, 13 Dec 85 00:29:47 EST >From ins_aset@jhunix Thu Dec 12 13:28:43 1985 remote from jhunix Date: Thu, 12 Dec 85 13:28:35 EST From: Susanne E Trowbridge To: love-hounds%mit-eddie.arpa@seismo.UUCP Subject: confusion I sent two postings the other day - I don't remember exactly what I said in the first one, but the second one was largely to explain a reference I had made in the first one. Naturally, the second one got through, the first one got lost. Sorry 'bout that. I really don't try to be cryptic on purpose... IN any case, here is more info on the Some Bizzare (yes, that's the correct spelling) compilation, "If You Can't Please Yourself You Can't Please Your Soul." 1. Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel, "The Only Good Christian Is A Dead Christian." Foetus strives to be offensive, and succeeds rather nicely, thank you. (On the day that I met him, he was regaling everyone with his favorite quote, "A woman's place is on my face.") There's little middle ground here - you'll either love Foetus or you'll hate 'im. Most people will probably hate him. Personally, I'm a fan. This is fairly represen- tative of his work. 2. Cabaret Voltaire, "Product Patrol." Another good one from one of my favorite bands. They're quite prolific these days. Their LP, "The Cove- nant The Sword and The Arm of the Lord," is one of the year's best. 3. Test Dept., "Total Nervous Phenomenon." Noisy... 4. Marc Almond, "Love Amongst the Ruined." A long torchy thing; I loooove Marc's voice, but I looooved it much more when he was in Soft Cell and he had that electronic punch to back it up. 5. Psychic TV, "Twisted." From the remains of Throbbing Gristle...Psychic TV's alter-ego is Coil (who are on side 2). 6. The The, "Flesh and Bones." Unbelievably good. Totally wonderful and stupendous and all that...Boy, was I glad to get my hands on this track after the super-long wait since "Soul Mining." I hope there's an LP from Matt on the way. In the meantime, I've been playing this constantly. 7. Coil, "The Wheel." Coil's best song, I think - much more "pop" that their "Scatology" LP or their weird version of "Tainted Love." 8. Yello, "The Roxy Cut." I think this is a remix of an earlier Yello song, but since I only have one of their albums, I'm not sure what that song is. Good and danceable, in any case. 9. Virginia Astley, "Waiting to Fall." Sort of pretty - wonder what she's doing in the company of all these weirdos? 10. Einsturzende Neubauten, "Wardrobe." More alternative noize stuff. In other words, there is something on this album for EVERYBODY. It is a very good introduction to Foetus, Test Dept., etc. since it's got a balance of weird stuff and accessible stuff. Buy or die, as Ralph Records used to say!! A note on the KB interview in Musician -- Kate talks about her great admir- ation for Bryan Ferry!!! What stupendous taste, Kate!! Wonder what Bryan thinks of her music? -Sue [][][][][][][][][][] From: umcp-cs!aplcen!uucp@seismo.CSS.GOV Return-Path: Date: Fri, 13 Dec 85 13:40:55 EST >From ins_aset@jhunix Fri Dec 13 10:23:53 1985 remote from jhunix Date: Fri, 13 Dec 85 10:23:44 EST From: Susanne E Trowbridge To: love-hounds%mit-eddie.arpa@seismo.UUCP Subject: Kate du Jour In the latest SPIN magazine, "HOL" is their Platter du Jour (best of the month, I guess). The review is rather simplistic but there's a nice pic of KB in a weird little hat with a tassel... (Reprinted w/out permission, of course.) If Kate Bush had been a writer instead of a musician, she might have written something like "Alice in Wonderland." She writes children's songs for adults, constantly drifting into girlish dreams, while main- taining a vibrant sense of romantic adventure. Every little daydream and all her fragile emotions are projected into a fantasyland of poetic imagery and off-beat music. With traces of classical, operatic, tribal, and twisted pop styles, Kate creates music that observes no boundaries of musical structure or inner expression. Though she has always been a top 10 artist in Europe (this album was No. 1 in England as of this writing), her odd style and even odder vocal squeal have always kept her off the American charts. (ST note - Well, "The Man With The Child In His Eyes" *did* make it to #89 or thereabouts...) But even though Kate continues on an offbeat course, this album might gain her some well-deserved recognition from the American mainstream. On "HOL," Kate continues making Gothic pop with brooding string arrange- ments, sparse and dissonant percussion (ST note - sparse??), and her bittersweet vocal squawks and squeaks. While she introduced intermittent pop touches on her previous album, "The Dreaming," her music is still anything but pop. On side one's "RUTH" and the title cut, she maintains her romantic edge, but structures her songs more accessibly, singing within a range that isn't overly abrasive or far-reaching. These changes don't appear to have been made as concessions, and certainly don't hurt. The rest of side one has more of Kate's twisted musical sensibility and the lyrics deal with her confused romantic desires. She wants to be enraptured by love, but always ends up shattered and lonely. Just when she wants to be left to herself, she becomes morose in her independence. On "The Big Sky," Kate again adds a more accessible touch, with hints of psychedelia, but then returns to the familiar womb of her childhooe fantasyland on "Mother Stands for Comfort." The side closes with "Cloud- bursting" (sic), which appears to be an anti-nuclear song with an arrange- ment framed by haunting orchestration and a minimal rhythmic approach. While side one is subtitled "The HOL" and is a collection of quite diffe- rent songs, side two, entitled "The Ninth Wave," is a somewhat loosely interconnected collection of musical movements that are even more bizarre and mystical than Kate's previous works. She dreams again on the operatic "And Dream of Sheep" and is emotionally trapped on the claustro- phobic "Under Ice." On "Waking the Witch," one of the most puzzling songs on the album, Kate brings a funkier edge to her music and seems to be in a state of spiritual confusion. Any other interpretations beyond that should be left to individual opinion. It took three years for Kate to make this album, and it was two years before that that she last released an album. (ST note - I thought "The Dreaming" was 82) With no plans to tour America, Kate is likely to remain obscure on this side of the Atlantic. While her eclecticism is well (scratch that) welcomed and rewarded in her homeland her genius still goes ignored here - a situation that is truly a shame for an artist so adventurous and naturally theatrical. Comments????????? At least the guy tried to go a little deeper than most reviewers... (by Steve Matteo, btw.) -Sue [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 14 Dec 85 01:04:25 est From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Re: question about "Mother Stands for Comfort" > From: tsung@aero > On my nth listening to HoL, the song "Mother Stands For Comfort" again > sent chills up my spine. Yeah, it send chills up mine too! > If this is really a love song to Mother, then why does the arrangement > give such a . . . haunted/chilling atmosphere to the song? Because it's about how a mother's love for her child transcends morality. The child has done something horrible and wrong, but their mother will still love them. > For me, it conjures up an image of a huge house with an overpowering > mother figure about to beat up little-girl-Kate in the corner shaking > with fear. Gee, I dunno why you'd picture that? I always pictured a child stricken with fear going to their mother for comfort. "Mother will hide the mad man" Doug [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 14 Dec 85 04:15:17 est From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Become the envy of your KB fan friends, real cheap! > From: genrad!grkermi!andrew > To: genrad!mit-eddie!nessus > Thought you might be interested in the following ad (Rockaway Records > catalog #103, bound inside Goldmine #141): > K A T E B U S H > A collection of misc. one of a kind items, for example: original color photo > (13x17) used for 1st issue of cover of US "Kick Inside" LP; set of 4 color > photos (11x13) which were *not* used for cover of 1st issue of "Kick Inside"; > paste-up for magazine ad for 2nd issue of "Kick Inside" LP; plus many more > items. Sold as a set only - the ultimate for Kate Bush fans. $500 (plus > extra postage). Call for more details. > The address is: > Rockaway Records > 2506 N. Glendale Blvd. > Los Angeles, CA 90039 > (213) 664-2135 > AWR > P.S.: I have dealt with Rockaway in the past and been satisfied. [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@mit-eddie.mit.edu