Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!petrus!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!ulysses!ucbvax!tcp-ip From: mogul@SU-NAVAJO.ARPA (Jeff Mogul) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Subnetting and gateways Message-ID: <8512130034.AA05222@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 12-Dec-85 18:11:00 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8512130034.AA05222 Posted: Thu Dec 12 18:11:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Dec-85 20:02:00 EST References: Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 18 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa I disagree that requiring RFC950-style subnet support is a bad idea. If implemented reasonably, using address masks, it insulates a host entirely from the addressing format (i.e., subnets? and if so, what bits specify the subnet?) So, rather than moving the smarts into the hosts, RFC950 goes in the opposite direction - put a simple mechanism into each host that allows it to offload all the smarts onto the gateways. Of course, even this much change is probably too much for some of our vendors. But the internet is too big to pretend that subnets are unnecessary. -Jeff P.S.: I believe Noel Chiappa has consistently advocated the position that non-gateway hosts should not even have routing tables; just a large enough redirect table (with host redirects only) and the address of one or more neighbor gateways.