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From: jkh@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Newsgroups: mod.rec.guns
Subject: Original reply
Message-ID: <217@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU>
Date: Wed, 18-Dec-85 01:40:15 EST
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Posted: Wed Dec 18 01:40:15 1985
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Author: decwrl!glacier!oliveb!felix!birtch!ken@ucbvax (Ken B)
Status: R
In-Reply-To: <191@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU>

Article: 12:20

	I didn't know such a group on the net exsisted.  I don't know much
about S&W .45, or for that matter much about most weapons, (except my
S&W 357, model 66).  

	I think the reason I have never seen this group, is that it shows
up in our 'junk' group.  How high is the readership?  If it is warranted,
perhaps a group should be made (I.E. a newgroup message put out).

	As to the stopping power of ANY round of ammo, short of testing
the various ammo myself (expensive), I would have to use the old tried
and true formula of Force = Mass * Acceleration (F=MA) from physics.  I
don't have my re-loading manual with me, but awhile ago I did some comparasons
of .38 ammunition, and the 'stopping power' involved, and I decided that
light semi-jacketed hollow-points (about 125 grains) at nearly maxed-out
velocity was good (I.E. a .38+P specification)  The reason?  My dad has
a S&W .38 and wanted a bullet that could stop a person, if he had to. In
my reloading manual, I took the amount of force that a bullet produced
at various velocities, and multiplied it by the number of grains of the
bullet.  Then, based upon the type of crosssection of the bullet (I.E.
round nosed, wad-cutter, jacketed, etc.) I decided that a semi-jacketed
hollow-point at a high velocity would do the trick.

	Good shooting,
			Ken Brown

PS.	I know that you were not asking about .38 ammo, but it (at least
	in theory) should be the same for *most* ammo.  I have never
	fired a .45 or any weapon that uses .380 (isn't .380 for rifles?)
	Hope that at least this little bit on .38/.357 stuff might be
	of assistance.

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