Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site madhat.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!ariel!mtunh!akguc!akgua!sb6!scbhq!uahcs1!madhat!alvitar From: alvitar@madhat.UUCP Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: radar detectors Message-ID: <190@madhat.UUCP> Date: Mon, 25-Nov-85 03:22:11 EST Article-I.D.: madhat.190 Posted: Mon Nov 25 03:22:11 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Dec-85 09:29:23 EST References: <633@mtung.UUCP> Organization: DataVision, Huntsville AL Lines: 31 Note: I have never designed a speed detector, radar detector, or radar jammer; therefore, this information is obviously second hand and may not be correct. [ In <633@mtung.UUCP> Jonathan Clark writes: ] > I'll ask it again: Is the transmission from a radar gun modulated > in any way so that the gun can distinguish the signal it sent out > from the signal coming back in IN THE SAME BAND? > [...examples of extraneous noise...] Some police radars use a heterodyne technique to compute speed based on the doppler shift in the received signal. The transmit signal (Tx) is mixed (beat) with the received signal (Rx) resulting in signal components which are the sum (Tx+Rx) and difference (Tx-Rx) of the original frequencies. Filters are used to reject all but the Tx-Rx component, which is fed into a frequency counter. Speed is supposedly proportional to the resulting count. This technique improves the accuracy of the gun, but does not necessarily help reject other signal sources. Most other sources will differ enough from the transmitted frequency that the value from the frequency counter will be noticeably bogus. Again, filtering may be used to reject wide differences but I suspect that a second interfering police radar could be close enough to generate an incorrect yet reasonable reading (not to mention an unfair citation). -- Live: Phil Harbison, DataVision Mail: 3409 Grassfort Dr., Huntsville, AL 35805 Uucp: {ihnp4,clyde,sdcsvax}!akgua!madhat!alvitar Quot: "186,000 miles/second isn't just a good idea, its the law!" [OMNI]