Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 11/08/85; site unccvax.unccvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!mcnc!unccvax!dsi From: dsi@unccvax.UUCP (Dataspan Inc) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.auto Subject: Re: Massachusetts seat belt law Message-ID: <394@unccvax.unccvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Dec-85 08:35:41 EST Article-I.D.: unccvax.394 Posted: Mon Dec 16 08:35:41 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Dec-85 04:41:31 EST References: <294@frog.UUCP> <751@mit-eddie.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: UNC-Charlotte Lines: 50 Xref: watmath net.politics:12510 net.auto:8830 > mucho grumbling about Taxachusetts seat belt law Frankly, I am sick and tired of paying higher insurance premiums for both automobile and major medical, because of the 90 % of you who don't care to belt up when you drive. Rehashing old John Stuart Mill arguments about freedom is moot. The fact that the difference between reconstructive surgury and a sore shoulder is made every hour of every day by those who wear their belts should be sufficient reason for everyone to belt up voluntarily. But NOOOOOOO! Then again, there is the cost to "society" because of the incredible pain and suffering "utils" accumulated due solely to non belt wearing. You can't find me one person lying in a hospital bed right now (due to their non-belt-wearing results) who would state that being there was worth it because they wanted to be civilly disobedient. Howsa 'bout that guy in the next E-R suite whose situation wasn't preventable, but isn't getting all the medical attention he possibly could because person B didn't care to wear their belts and is bleeding buckets onto the floor. Anti-belties have a point: people who defy the law are engaged in natural selection. This would be fine if people were only responsible to themselves, but 99.5% are not so antisocial. However, the "natural selection" business may be true among non-belt-users: I have noticed an amazing correlation between the most grusome wrecks and non-belt usage. Usually, the frame benders exhibit no belt usage, bald tyres, brake pads down to the rivets, etc. We're not talking about ghetto junk either, but rather cars owned presumably by responsible family types who don't beat their kids, go to church, etc. The true libertarian would be against Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) because as free thinking, rational humans, they alone should be able to decide whether or not a vehicle is fit. As a practicing engineer, I am not even able to determine (from ordinary inspection) whether a new vehicle is fit or not from an engineering standpoint. As a driving enthusiast and recreational mechanic, I * know * that people permit their vehicles to deteriorate to levels which are patently defective. There are tons of this junk on the road right outside the door here. If they aren't going to pull their damn drums and caliper their rotors, the least that they can do for themselves is to belt up in prepration for the inevitable. For you enthusiasts who carry "On Liberty" in the glove compartment, you need to prepare for that aforementioned jerk who can't spare the cost of a couple of cases of beer to get Michelins instead of Western Auto Macho Belteds. Seat belt laws are trivial. It could be much worse. You could have to demonstrate your proficiency on a skidpad, or have your vehicle impounded for piss-poor mechanical maintainence. David Anthony DataSpan, Inc