Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site gargoyle.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes From: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.auto Subject: Re: Massachusetts seat belt law Message-ID: <285@gargoyle.UUCP> Date: Sat, 28-Dec-85 20:17:38 EST Article-I.D.: gargoyle.285 Posted: Sat Dec 28 20:17:38 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 29-Dec-85 06:19:08 EST Reply-To: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Distribution: net Organization: U. of Chicago, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 74 Xref: watmath net.politics:12700 net.auto:8910 A 1979 Univ. of North Carolina study estimated that the direct costs associated with non-use of a lap and shoulder belt restraint is about $500 per occupant per crash. Direct costs include hospital costs, professional fees, lost wages, and funeral expenses. The societal costs, which include direct costs, are about $2500 per occupant per crash. Societal costs include all medical costs, funeral costs, legal and court costs, insurance costs, costs of investigating accidents, and costs from lost productivity due to disability, but do not include the unquantifiable pain and suffering experienced by victims and their loved ones. Opponents of mandatory seat-belt laws propose to deal with this situation by internalizing the costs of seat-belt non-use, by making the non-user pay the marginal cost incurred by his or her non-use, through higher insurance premiums, etc. I believe that this is unrealistic and utopian. It might be difficult in some cases to tell if an accident victim had been wearing a belt, and it would often be difficult to tell if non-use had contributed to causing an accident, as sometimes happens when the driver is thrown to one side. Then the cost of police, ambulance, ER, rehabilitation, and survivor welfare payments would also have to be internalized so that only the non-user bore their cost. I don't see how this can realistically be done, particularly in the case of poor people, unless we are going to refuse emergency room and rehabilitation services to people who cannot pay for them. Finally, how do you internalize the suffering and general disruption that your death or serious injury imposes on other people, particularly your family and co-workers? The opponents of seat-belt laws sometimes write as if the only person who would care if they died were themselves. So I think a reasonable albeit imperfect solution is to make seat-belt use mandatory. [One would not necessarily favor a general ban on cigarette smoking by the same reasoning. I favor increased insurance premiums for smokers, since it can be determined if one is a smoker or not. A general ban on cigarettes would, like Prohibition and unlike seat-belt laws, be very difficult to enforce. Millions of nicotine addicts would have to go cold turkey and people in the tobacco industry would have to be compensated. It is not a good analogy, although I do favor societal measures to reduce smoking (the proposed ban on cigarette advertising is worthy of consideration).] In states that do not have seat-belt laws, about 6 out of 7 motorists are not using belts at a given time. Do you really think that these motorists, like mountain climbers, have rationally weighed the risks and benefits and concluded that the 1.7 seconds they save or supposed increased comfort (I think seat-belts are very comfortable) outweighs the additional risk? Or is it more like this: You get into the car and don't even think about belts. You don't think about the possibility of an accident because it is very unpleasant to think of such a thing happening to *you*. If you do think about accidents you misjudge their likelihood and their potential costs to you and others. If you are a passenger you don't want to insult the driver by buckling up if, as is likely, he does not. If you are the driver you don't want to appear chicken to your passengers (don't laugh unless you have never cared if anyone thought you were chicken, especially as an adolescent). Perhaps you don't use the belt simply because you have never formed the habit, and humans are creatures of habit. I am trying to point out the complexities involved in such apparently simple acts of "free" choice, and that a seat-belt law that is enforced can provide benefits to the belt user himself, and as judged by himself. On the order of 15-20,000 deaths a year (and many more serious injuries) are attributed to seat-belt non-use in the US. I wish opponents of seat-belt laws would talk to the families and friends of these victims, such as a couple I know of who lost their teenage daughter in an accident where it was clear that she would not have died if she had been wearing a belt. Or talk with quadriplegics, a large proportion of whom received their injuries in auto accidents, and *none* of whom had been wearing belts. If you can convince such persons that mandatory seat-belt laws are a bad idea, my hat's off to you. -- Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes