Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site pegasus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!pegasus!mzal From: mzal@pegasus.UUCP (Mike Zaleski) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: freedom Message-ID: <2696@pegasus.UUCP> Date: Tue, 31-Dec-85 13:45:38 EST Article-I.D.: pegasus.2696 Posted: Tue Dec 31 13:45:38 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Jan-86 01:06:07 EST Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Lincroft Lines: 49 Indented excerpts from tw8023@pyuxii.UUCP (T Wheeler): Why don't we just lay all of this attempt at creating a rationale for speeding aside and say what is really on your minds; you want to go fast. If you will just admit that you enjoy speeding along a nice highway, we can eliminate all of this roundabout reasoning and get to the nub of the argument. I completely agree that, despite the rationales offered by various articles in net.auto, this is the true reason for objection to the speed limit. Long time readers of net.auto may remember my proposal for a real nationwide campaign to get rid of the 55 limit - complete with slogans, manipulative advertising, and a boycott. It is not that I particularly believed the ideas which I felt could be conveyed in manipulative advertising. I do, however, believe that the vast number of people in this country are more readily swayed by plausable sounding reasons then they would be by the statement: "I don't think speeding is bad." Rationalizations (and lies, for that matter) are a long standing tradition in politics. Stacked statistics are used, not just to show that German drivers are better, but that 55 saves lives, and so on. It is not surprising to see rationalizations used in pro and anti 55 articles in net.auto, we've all learned this is part of winning a political battle. But, it is silly, because net.auto is read by auto enthusiasts who (whether they are anti or pro 55) know what each other is really thinking. What do you tell folks who drive at a speed they feel comfortable at, say 60, and there is no speed limit? Stay off the highways? I don't think you want to do that, right? What do you say to someone who feels comfortable at 85? Have a nice day? I suppose you could say that, but do you want him blowing you off the strand if you feel better at 70. Where do you set the standard? This reminds me of a George Carlin line: "Have you ever noticed how everyone who is driving slower than you is an idiot and everyone who is driving faster than you is a maniac?" There is a bit of truth in this which every person who has flamed pro or anti 55 on net.auto could learn from. The rest of T.C. Wheeler's article was quite good. Really. -- "The Model Citizen" Mike^Z Zaleski@Rutgers [ allegra, ihnp4 ] pegasus!mzal