Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ihnp3.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihnp3!cfiaime From: cfiaime@ihnp3.UUCP (J. Williams) Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: Re: No favoritism in Washington Center Message-ID: <205@ihnp3.UUCP> Date: Thu, 26-Dec-85 09:31:04 EST Article-I.D.: ihnp3.205 Posted: Thu Dec 26 09:31:04 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Dec-85 00:49:01 EST References: <3074@sun.uucp> <945@terak.UUCP> <656@kitty.UUCP> Reply-To: cfiaime@ihnp3.UUCP (45261-J. Williams) Distribution: net Organization: ATT Bell Labs Lines: 36 In article <656@kitty.UUCP> larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: >> what is Air Force 1 doing on VHF? > > Why not? Washington Center is an FAA *civilian* air traffic control >operation. While Washington Center no doubt monitors 243.0 and has other UHF >capability, it is common for military *transport* craft - which have the same >speed and altitude range of civilian craft - to use VHF so that other civilian >aircraft can know what's going on in their airspace. About the only military aircraft without VHF capability seems to be Air Force and Navy fighters. VHF is considered mission essential in most other aircraft. I have worked joint missions with Air Force helicopters where messages were passed on 122.9 and 123.45. Additionally, while at Pax River with the Starhawk, we heard P-3's, C-130's, and S-3's on VHF. At Fr. Rucker, Alabama, most of the general purpose aircraft had VHF capability. All of the FAA installations have UHF capability, simply because the FAA "owns" the airspace over the United States. There are sections of the airspace that are special use, but the FAA has the right to use this airspace if it needs to. There are military liason officers assigned to each Air Route Traffic Control Center, and to many approach control facilities. Military flight plans are filed through the FAA just like civilian flight plans. Only the military flight plan form requires a bit more data, such as a passenger manifest. (It is always alot of fun to fly out of a military field, simply because of the way base operations treats flight crew. The paperwork forces you to really plan your flight, the way we should do anyway.) As an aside, if you ever have a chance to visit an ARTCC or tower, do so. You will be pleasently suprised at the professionalism of the controllers. jeff williams AT&T Bell Laboratories ihnp3!cfiaime