Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site hpfcmp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!lll-crg!qantel!hplabs!hpfcdc!hpfcla!rjn From: rjn@hpfcla.UUCP Newsgroups: net.consumers Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <34800009@hpfcmp.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Dec-85 02:13:00 EST Article-I.D.: hpfcmp.34800009 Posted: Wed Dec 11 02:13:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Dec-85 05:44:57 EST References: <1119@lll-crg.UUCP> Organization: 11 Dec 85 00:13:00 MST Lines: 22 re: "What was Ponzi's full name?" You may not need to know. Ponzi and pyramid schemes are different. Ponzi: Usually a junk bond (or stock) scam where last week's investors are paid out of this week's sales of bonds or stock. No product or reinvestment is necessarily involved. You head for Brazil when your cash on hand peaks. A recent example of a Ponzi is the lactic culture scam, where people who thought they were selling their milk mold for cosmetics were actually being paid out of sales of "starter kits" to new clients. The U.S. Social Security System is also a Ponzi. Pyramid: A widening heirarchy of "distributors", where the real money is made by signing up new distributors and not by selling products. A chain letter is a classic pyramid scheme. Regards, Hewlett-Packard Bob Niland 3404 East Harmony Road [ihnp4|hplabs]!hpfcla!rjn Fort Collins CO 80525 PS. No, I don't know his full name.