Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!nbires!opus!seltzer From: seltzer@opus.UUCP (Wayne Seltzer) Newsgroups: net.consumers Subject: Re: Honda Information Message-ID: <315@opus.UUCP> Date: Fri, 27-Dec-85 14:10:37 EST Article-I.D.: opus.315 Posted: Fri Dec 27 14:10:37 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Dec-85 13:15:19 EST References: <34800010@hpfcmp.UUCP> <14234@rochester.UUCP> Reply-To: seltzer@nbires.UUCP (Wayne Seltzer) Organization: NBI,Inc, Boulder CO Lines: 29 I also own an '84 Honda Accord Hatchback and have been extremely pleased with it. It has been in for service only once. The rear window defroster stooped working because the electrical contacts that are bonded to the window fell off. The dealer (Bill Crouch Honda in Boulder, for you locals) tried to re-bond it, but failed. that there is no way to rebond the contacts in the shop and the window should be replaced. It took several trips to the dealer before they figured this out. In general, the engineering on the car is the suprisingly good for the price, which was my biggest issue in selecting a car at the time. I think Honda engineers do a good job within the constraints that they have. My gripes lie mostly with the local dealer, whose motivations seem more towards making a buck than producing a quality product. The few things they have done for the car they have managed to screw up. The installed a cargo cover for the hatch and drilled a hole in the wrong place. The American made floormats unglued themselves on the first hot day. I am not confident that their mechanics know how the thing works and will be able to fix obscure problems. On the other hand, the shop manual is well done (despite minor translation problems), so I plan on taking care of the thing myself, now that the warranty has expired. And the salespersons -- well, I don't have to explain how I feel about them. ("What? You'd rather have a lifetime of free oil changes than a free pinstrip?" "And you *really* must get the dealer protection package -- it will rust without it." Right...) -- Wayne Seltzer {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!seltzer NBI Inc., Boulder, CO (303) 444-5710