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From: oz@yetti.UUCP (Ozan Yigit)
Newsgroups: net.emacs
Subject: Re: monty's emacs..
Message-ID: <291@yetti.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 22-Dec-85 02:12:56 EST
Article-I.D.: yetti.291
Posted: Sun Dec 22 02:12:56 1985
Date-Received: Sun, 22-Dec-85 08:40:47 EST
References: <287@yetti.UUCP> <252@unirot.UUCP>
Reply-To: oz@yetti.UUCP (Ozan Yigit)
Organization: York University Computer Science
Lines: 56
Keywords: emacs, PD-software
Summary: 

In article <252@unirot.UUCP> pooh@unirot.UUCP (Pooh) writes:
>
>Think about it a minute.  If you put a product into the public
>domain, that means no one has to pay for that product.  If it
>happens to be your product, you don't make any money from it.
>
	So what ??? If I have 10 products, and 2 of them are
	released to PD, because I may think that it is good PR,
	or maybe I care more about what other people get than
	just making money, where is the great loss ???

>How would you like it if someone took something that you had
>worked on very hard and was planning to make a living from,
>and declared that through some technicality, everyone could
>have it and no one had to pay you for it?
>
	To my knowledge, Warren Montgomery never intended to make
	money out of his emacs. And nobody has taken anything from
	him, nor anybody will. As he clerified in a previous posting,
	his emacs is NOT PD, nor will it ever be, unless AT&T
	has a major overhaul in style. BUT IF IT WAS PD, it would not
	be a "technicality". Nothing becomes PD, unless it is declared
	by a court as such, or declared by the author/innovator as such.

>
>You don't have to buy a product if you don't like its price.
>But you certainly have no right to take away someone's livelihood.
>
	You sound as if someone has just taken away someone's 
	livelyhood. I was merely questioning the status of
	Montgomery Emacs. It was cleared up later.

>If you feel differently about this, then I suggest you go to your
>employer and tell him that he no longer has to pay you wages for
>the code you write for him.
>
	My paycheck says that they do not !! :-)

	All this trivia aside, I am sure you will see other emacs-like
	editors in the public domain, or released in source-level
	with copyright, as in GNU Emacs. You see, if people want to
	have their editor in the source form, at the cost of the
	distribution media, they will get it no matter what any
	software company tries to do. (I do not imply stealing,
	disassembling or any such legally questionable means)

	GNU is just a start.

Oz


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