Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site isrnix.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!inuxc!iubugs!isrnix!pugsly From: pugsly@isrnix.UUCP (David A. Roth) Newsgroups: net.jobs,net.college Subject: Re: Overtime pay for professionals??? Message-ID: <642@isrnix.UUCP> Date: Sat, 14-Dec-85 21:24:29 EST Article-I.D.: isrnix.642 Posted: Sat Dec 14 21:24:29 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 16-Dec-85 04:59:26 EST References: <1418@rayssd.UUCP> <957@mako.UUCP> <452@mot.UUCP> <73@calma.UUCP> <794@sfmag.UUCP>, <217@pluto.UUCP>Re: Overtime pay for professSat, 14-Dec-85 21:24:29 EST Organization: Indianapolis, Indiana Lines: 21 Xref: watmath net.jobs:1664 net.college:959 In most of the programming positions I worked in overtime was not required but assumed. Most people worked overtime simply because they wanted too. If you are interested in something and like working on it and if no one expects you to work overtime and you do it on your own, fine. BUT, those lame reasons managers calling you not a "team player" or "lack of commitment" is hog wash. Most overtime is caused by mis-management and lack of planning. These so-called emergencies usually happen because of the above. Taking it out on the people you manage is not only not right it will come back to haunt you in the form of turnover and upset employes. The suggestion made to of course try and avoid all this by talking about all this during the interview and again with your manager. The company you work for doesn't give there goods away..and nether should you! David A. Roth ...decvax!pur-ee!isrnix!pugsly ...ihnp4!isrnix!pugsly Indianapolis,IN