Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site iuvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!iubugs!iuvax!lwm From: lwm@iuvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.jobs Subject: Re: AI search and recruitment Message-ID: <4300008@iuvax.UUCP> Date: Sat, 14-Dec-85 13:20:00 EST Article-I.D.: iuvax.4300008 Posted: Sat Dec 14 13:20:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 17-Dec-85 04:41:47 EST References: <153@mdee.UUCP> Lines: 56 Nf-ID: #R:mdee:-15300:iuvax:4300008:000:3164 Nf-From: iuvax!lwm Dec 14 13:20:00 1985 I think I can understand why this type of posting makes some people nervous. However, I think it is worthwhile if we pause and reconsider before kindling too many flames. The posting from mdee!root is basically a product anouncement. Product announcements are nothing new on the net. Since the product in question is employment services, it should not be surprising that it is posted here. All product announcements are invitations to people and/or companies to buy a product which benefits the manufacturer financially. Postings of job openings by companies are not purely information offered for the benefit of job seekers; there are financial benefits here too. It costs little or nothing to post a job opening on the net. It saves the company with the opening considerable money though. A wide audience of potential employees can be reached without having to purchase newspaper ads in all the cities reached by usenet. It takes man-hours of work on the part of the people in a company's personnel office to get the word out all over the country if it is done without the net. A penny saved is a penny earned. Postings by job seekers are similarly of a commercial nature. A job seeker is selling his services and advertising them on the net. No one can deny that considerable time (time is money) is saved by job seekers by using the net to send out resumes. Don't forget postage saved either. As far as headhunters in particular, I know many of us do not have good impressions of them. I have had my share of annoyances with some of them too. The tactics used by some of them can be truly offensive. They are not all like that though, and many professionals actually like to use headhunters. Likewise, many companies like to use them. They consider it an extension of their personnel departments (which are just in-house headhunters after all). Many start-up companies don't have a real personnel department yet, but may have some excellent job opportunities to offer. They have to rely on someone else to find employees for them. Additionally, all companies with attractive openings are not on the net. Having mdee on the net may allow us to hear of an interesting position we wouldn't otherwise know about. As far as tactics go, I would rather have a headhunter post a job opening on the net for me to consider at my leisure than call me in my office or, worse yet, at my home. I think postings of job openings in net.jobs is appropriate no matter who does it. If anyone has an aversion to dealing with headhunters, the posting can be ignored, just as one would ignore a posting from a company for whom one doesn't want to work. Granted, it would be better form for mdee!root to post specific job openings rather than a general announcement which, unfortunately, cannot be seen as anything other than an advertisement. I consider this to be an error in "netiquette" rather than a gross offense. I'm sure mdee!root will take note. Larry Meehan uucp: ...ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!lwm csnet: lwm@Indiana ARPA: lwm.Indiana@CSnet-Relay usnail: Indiana University C. S. Dept. Lindley 101 Bloomington, IN 47405