Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!murlocker From: murlocker@watmath.UUCP (murlocker) Newsgroups: net.lang.mod2 Subject: Re: newsgroup(s) about structure editors and programming env.s Message-ID: <675@watmath.UUCP> Date: Sat, 4-Jan-86 10:55:02 EST Article-I.D.: watmath.675 Posted: Sat Jan 4 10:55:02 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 5-Jan-86 01:30:35 EST References: <136@timpit0.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 29 > > for Modula-2, there are already 1 or 2 products available which provide > > more than just a compiler, and are certainly worthy of discussion. > > What are these products you are refering to ? > Interface Technologies of houston texas has an interactive modula-2 system m2sds which is available for $80.88 (get it?) or less if you trade in your old compiler. However, everyone I've spoken to about this product (including several authors of modula books) was disappointed with the reliability and lack of flexibility of the system. IT is offering a money back guarantee on the latest release of m2sds and has a migration path to a development quality system. Another modula system is available from Logitech, at under $100. Although its not a closely integrated system, their editor does syntax checking and has macros for the entry of modula constructs. You can compile and link from the editor, and there is a source code debugger avaiable. This may be the type of evolutionary product that users of traditional systems would be more likely to adopt. Software Channels has started an all out marketing campaign for a very impressive syntax-directed pascal environment called ALICE. Although its interpreter-based, performance is adequate for educational/prototype purposes. A compiler may be available in the future. A demo disk is available for $5. Look for the full page ad featuring an unlikely looking female hackette (where's her coffee?). mark