Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site topaz.RUTGERS.EDU
Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gatech!seismo!topaz!hedrick
From: hedrick@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Charles Hedrick)
Newsgroups: net.mail
Subject: Re: mailing to ARPA sites?
Message-ID: <4276@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>
Date: Mon, 16-Dec-85 07:35:47 EST
Article-I.D.: topaz.4276
Posted: Mon Dec 16 07:35:47 1985
Date-Received: Tue, 17-Dec-85 07:46:20 EST
References: <135@rruxo.UUCP>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
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Command: followup
To: vch@rruxo.UUCP

In the case of Rutgers, you should be able to use uucp directly.  The
following should work for the two sites you mention.  If it does not,
please send a message to topaz!postmaster.

   topaz!nb!username   [the VMS machine]
   topaz!blue!username  [a DEC-20]

Note that mail on nb is not very good.  He will have to know some magic
to reply to you.  Your system talks directly to topaz, so you need not
involve ihnp4.  topaz is the Rutgers uucp gateway.

As for mail to Arpanet sites, as a system administrator I feel I
should tell you that it is a violation of the rules for anyone to
gateway mail from UUCP to the Arpanet, unless specific arrangements
have been made so that someone responsible can validate the use.  The
Arpanet is a Dept. of Defense resource, and is available only for
purposes of the U.S. Government.  It is true that this rule is
commonly violated.  But it is worth trying to find out first whether a
site that you want to talk to can be reached via UUCP.  I think you
will find that many Arpanet sites do talk UUCP, and have arrangements
to forward mail to machines that are not directly on UUCP.  The
database used by pathalias is a good place to look for information
about what machines are on UUCP at a given organization.  postmaster
at one of them should then be able to help you with a routing.  Your
local postmaster, or the postmaster at a nearby gateway should be able
to help you find the routing database.