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From: dsr@uvacs.UUCP (Dana S. Richards)
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Subject: Re: Re: Logic puzzle creation query
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>  Remember that most folks who solve these kinds of puzzles are cross-
> word puzzle freaks, not logicians.

I would hate to characterize Smith-Jones-Robinson puzzle solvers as 
crossword freaks, or vice versa.
Except for the kinship at some meta-level and the fact they both appear
in Dell publications, I don't see any relationship.

A true "freak" who is bored with the NYT xword will do cryptics,
preferably variety cryptics (Atlantic, Harper's).
I know some of you do these but everyone should try them.
DO NOT do british cryptics unless you are both an anglophile and a
masochist.  Cryptics should be fair, so try those in Games magazine
for starters.
(Games also has the best american xwords also in my opinion (***'s).
They also have logic problems but I never look at them.)