Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Re: Tea(actually references) Message-ID: <898@psivax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Dec-85 13:37:26 EST Article-I.D.: psivax.898 Posted: Fri Dec 13 13:37:26 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 16-Dec-85 04:29:23 EST References: <3441@brl-tgr.ARPA> <715@lasspvax.UUCP> <144@bbncc5.UUCP> <2359@amdahl.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Distribution: net Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 46 In article <2359@amdahl.UUCP> ems@amdahl.UUCP (ems) writes: >> >> Sigh, references, please. Whatever the risk, it must be very small, >> for I have never seen any such a claim in the admittedly conventional >> literature that I habitually read. I am open to being convinced otherwise. >> Convince me, please. > >Sigh, another condecending request for references. The purpose seems >to always be the same. To equate a lack of references with a lack >of truth. I would not say it was condecending. Nor do I equate lack of references with lack of truth - only with lack of *verifiability*. Without proper documentation I cannot properly evaluate any claims made. So I cannot make *any* judgement about the truth or falsity of the statements. In the absence of evaluable evidence I simply take the easiest course and retain my current opinions. So yes, convince me please! Give me usable evidence and I will at least consider it to see what its significance is. > While references are fine for academic works, and >would even be nice for the net, they are not the be-all and end-all >of information. I, too, remember reading *somewhere* of *some* >study which showed a correlation of tannins with esophageal cancer. >Milk was found to inhibit it. My references? My own memory of >an article in *some* magazine. In that case say so, do not present it as a *fact*, but rather as an idea you once heard. > If you want references, go look >them up in the library. The net is not a library nor is it >an acdemic convention where finished papers are being presented. >It is more like a cocktail party. Well, I think the *discussion* groups might be called a cocktail party, but this is *supposed* to be a technical information group, if I am going to be using the info I get I need to have *some* idea of its reliability. > -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) UUCP: {ttidca|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|quad1|nrcvax|bellcore|logico}!psivax!friesen ARPA: ttidca!psivax!friesen@rand-unix.arpa