Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucla-cs.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!ucla-cs!dgc From: dgc@ucla-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Re: ethernet in a hospital Message-ID: <8192@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Sat, 28-Dec-85 15:32:09 EST Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.8192 Posted: Sat Dec 28 15:32:09 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 29-Dec-85 20:12:24 EST References: <188@bigtuna.UUCP> <1895@saber.UUCP> <623@osiris.UUCP> <783@petrus.UUCP> Reply-To: dgc@ucla-cs.UUCP (David G. Cantor) Distribution: net Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 41 Keywords: ethernet, reliability CC: bellcore!petrus!mwg@topaz.arpa ------- I think the various notes about ethernets miss the real question: Just how reliable are ethernets? How do they compare in reliability with more classical "star" nets such as that used by telephones? Are they inherently unreliable? To explain the last question further: Ethernets and other non-redundant, non-star nets have the feature that ANYone on the net, ANYwhere can at ANYtime take down the entire system, and with very little effort. This has happened at ethernet installations. What, for example, if the technician who installs "vampires" makes a mistake and, while installing one, shorts the cable just while the ethernet is being used to monitor some critical life support function? Please don't misunderstand me. I believe that ethernets (and similar nets) have their places, primarily in controlled environments where the cost of catastrophic failure (that is entire system failure is not too great). It's worth noting that AT&T, which is noted for reliable, conservative design, stated when it first announced them, that its electronic switches had an expectation of no more than 30 minutes system down-time (and no more than twice) in a 20 year interval. Time has proved that they were optimistic. We don't have as much experience with ethernets and the small evidence that has accumulated indicates that they will be much less reliable than classical networks. David G. Cantor ARPA: dgc@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU (current) ARPA: dgc@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA (former) UUCP: ...!{ihnp4, randvax, sdcrdcf, ucbvax}!ucla-cs!dgc -- David G. Cantor ARPA: dgc@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU (current) ARPA: dgc@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA (former) UUCP: ...!{ihnp4, randvax, sdcrdcf, ucbvax}!ucla-cs!dgc