Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 +MULTI+2.11; site stc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!gatech!seismo!mcvax!ukc!stc!tom From: tom@stc.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: Re: 386 Family Products (8086 sucks Message-ID: <735@stc-b.stc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Dec-85 08:08:02 EST Article-I.D.: stc-b.735 Posted: Wed Dec 11 08:08:02 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 16-Dec-85 05:05:50 EST References: <133@daisy.UUCP> <97800013@ima.UUCP> <464@looking.UUCP> Reply-To: tom@stc.UUCP (Tom Sanders) Organization: STC Telecoms, London N11 1HB. Lines: 25 Xpath: stc stc-b stc-b stc-a >In article <97800013@ima.UUCP> johnl@ima.UUCP writes: > >>/* Written 1:44 pm Dec 3, 1985 by 5@utzoo@ecn-pc in ima:net.micro */ >Oh, stop it. It's just not true that existing compilers can hide the >808x's segmentation. I have just spent the last year and a half writing a >large program for the 808x with 5 other people. We spent about 1/4 of our >time dealing with the addressing nonsense on the Intel chip. The problem >is that if you have more than 64K total of data, you have to worry about >allocating that data to segments, and about addressing those segments. >Compilers are not much help. > >I really wish that it were true that a good compiler existed that could >hide the addressing from us, but it's not. I looked hard, and there is no >compiler of any sort that simultaneously hides the addressing problems and >generates code adequate for programs that one can sell. There just isn't. >Nor is there likely to be one any time soon. Please correct me if I'm >wrong, but don't bother if you haven't run at least a 1,000 line program >through your compiler. > >John Levine, ima!johnl > Pascal 86 version 3.1 handles more then 64k data invisibly. -- (Roots Rockers)