Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site well.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!ut-sally!seismo!lll-crg!well!perry From: perry@well.UUCP (Perry S. Kivolowitz) Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga Subject: serious problem facing independent developers Message-ID: <335@well.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Dec-85 00:49:59 EST Article-I.D.: well.335 Posted: Wed Dec 11 00:49:59 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Dec-85 07:32:08 EST Organization: Whole Earth Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 59 Keywords: observations and suggestions In conversations between Eric Lavitsky and myself we've come upon something which troubles us a great deal. We are, as are many of you, independent developers. That means from the minute we get home from work, till we drop off to sleep we work on products for the AMIGA that we hope will sell. Up till now we have been preoccupied with getting what we want to sell into working, releasable shape. Well, now we are in a position (that of having nearly completed products) where we've begun to think about how it is we are going to sell our wares. Gee, how about an ad in AMIGA World! That'd be great but there are two really negative factors. (1) AMIGA World ads are very expensive. Nearly $1000 for a one time 1/4 or 1/6 page. (2) The lead times are unusually long. Today, the 11th is the deadline for the March/April issue. That means if we wanted to spend the money we couldn't get in until May (half a year away!). While lead times for ads are generally long, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't 6 months longer than average? As for cost, there are those who'd say ``If you can't afford n dollars how can you afford to support etc...'' This is a resonable point to only a small extent. I can afford to typeset and copy manuals. Print disk labels and dupli- cate disks. I can afford to call customer's back after my work day ends. But the cost of AMIGA World ads coupled with the lead time is crushing! Suggestions: To Commodore---- Lean on AMIGA World to: Lower prices OR provide smaller, lower cost ads such as classifieds or 1/8 pagers. Provide some vehicle for us smaller developer types to get are wares known. Perhaps mention in a newsletter or subsidies on advertising to reviewed products. To Independent Developers Everywhere: Perhaps what is needed is an independent developer's cooperative? We could band together to share the cost of large ads in expensive widely read mags. The cooperative need not imply that we are in ``business'' together. It's just that through numbers we can break into the market in a way that we couldn't otherwise. Let's at least get some dialog going here as to how we might approach this problem which affects us all (AMIGA developers and users) directly or indirectly. Perry (sittin on two products) Kivolowitz