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From: freed@aum.UUCP (Erik Freed)
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Subject: Re: ST wins over Amiga
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Date: Mon, 16-Dec-85 20:46:50 EST
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> So Atari follows in IBM's footsteps, and succeeds with a technically
> inferior product :-).

I still do not understand what people think technically superior is.
Obviously if price is not part of technical achievment then I will take
a Vme based Sun-3 anyday! It seems that the ST is very close technically
and indeed for a lot of people better technically and at less than half the 
cost. If all you want is a 68000 and monochrome graphics the ST has far more
going for it. This is a large market!! So if you want the animation and the
built-in sound and you want to pay for it then do so... I would rather have
the extra money to buy a synthesizer personally. (controllable from the 
*built-in* MIDI port)

> Seriously, I don't own either machine. I'm probably going to be buying one
> in the near future (january), and haven't decided which. However, I want a
> machine for twiddling LISP, which means (to me - I want to load the editor
> and MasterScope and the online help and ...) lotsa-memory. Say, 4 Meg or so.
> Atari doesn't seem to want to market a machine to do that. The Amiga is
> open, and there are 2Meg boards on the market.

I believe that 2-meg memory expansion boards are in beta test for the ST.
These require no soldering. The price is far less than the TECMAR bullshit.

> Of course, the plaintiff cries from people trying to twiddle the mouse from
> C doesn't help the ST any.

I agree thhat the software enviroment so far is better but I will probably use
OS-9 anyway and then they both will be identical

> And I'm going to ignore the prospects of Commodore going under. I'll pick
> the machine that best does what I want, then support the company that makes
> it.

??????

> Final thought: I'd be suprised if the ST doesn't outsell the Amiga, by 2:1
> or better. After all, I expect most people to look at them, see windows and
> two price tags (one roughly 1/2 the other), and buy the smaller price tag.

This could be reasonably intelligent behavior if you aren't looking for some
extraas that the Amiga has. I do not believe the majority of people really
care about amimation and fancy built-in sound, or Bus-oriented expandability.
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                           Erik James Freed
			   Aurora Systems
			   San Francisco, CA
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