Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site imsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!gatech!seismo!elsie!imsvax!ted From: ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) Newsgroups: net.micro.pc Subject: More on WordPerfect, TROFF, and DIF Message-ID: <488@imsvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Dec-85 18:52:05 EST Article-I.D.: imsvax.488 Posted: Mon Dec 30 18:52:05 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Jan-86 01:00:12 EST Organization: IMS Inc, Rockville MD Lines: 40 To Brent Byer of Harvard, I say don't waste a good 52-line flame on an innocuous little informatory article in net.micro.pc; save those for net.politics or net.origins. The lady whose article I responded to specifically asked for information concerning interchange of documents between WordPerfect and TROFF, something which cannot be done in any reasonable way. The closest thing which DOES lie within the realm of the possible is the WordPerfect->NAVY DIF->Xerox 8010 (or 6085) connection, which it is not possible for me to describe without indulging in a TINY bit of advertising. On a scale of 1 - 10 for things I have ever felt guilty over, this rates about a zero. To someone who has been driving a model-T for 50 years and is happy with it, it may seem like the supreme technical accomplishment of the century; my view of TROFF is essentially similar to that of the average 1985 motorist's view of model-Ts. There are now several systems which can do nearly everything TROFF does as far as producing output on paper, and which are also WYSWYG. These include the ALLIS word processor which runs on several small, high-class graphics systems running under UNIX, as well as the Xerox 6085, which I recommend because it is substantially cheaper and has DIF routines. There is no comparison between ANY of these products and TROFF. With the WYSWYG systems, you don't take 20 attempts before you get your document looking right on paper, much as one doesn't take three days driving from D.C. to New York in a 928 Porsche. WordPerfect, as well as most ordinary word processors, AND THE NAVY DIF, AND IBM'S DCA/DISOSS, thinks in terms of columns. It is not possible to write a reasonable conversion routine from ANY of these to anything (such as TROFF) which ONLY thinks in fractions of an inch. The Xerox 6085 has columnar AND PROPORTIONAL fonts as well as multiple sized fonts. It is possible to translate DIF formatted documents into 8010 or 6085 format using one of the columnar fonts and THEN start playing games and changing things.