Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site l5.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!l5!laura From: laura@l5.uucp (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Turning the other cheek Message-ID: <345@l5.uucp> Date: Tue, 17-Dec-85 03:39:46 EST Article-I.D.: l5.345 Posted: Tue Dec 17 03:39:46 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Dec-85 05:42:31 EST References: <116@ubc-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: laura@l5.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 28 I have a real problem thinking about people who would beat someone else to death. Basically, I have trouble believing that they are human beings. I mean, they have the right number of limbs and are shaped into the right shape, but there is something crucial missing. I treat them as dangerous wild animals. I have dozens of Gay friends in Toronto. I don't want any of them to get killed. There is no question in my mind that 5, 10 or 100 years in prison couldn't in any way recompensate me for my friends. Prison as punishment, therefore, is not what I am interested in. I want those murderers locked up, and I want them locked up until it is absolutely clear that they are not going to go out and murder anybody else. And if it is never clear, then I *never* want them let out. I find it very sad that they are dangerous animals. But I will find it a lot sadder if I discover that in 8 years a friend of mine is killed by one of these punks upon their release from prison. Or if I find that *anyone* is killed by them. Homophobia did not make these people kill a man, though it may have determined that a Gay man was killed rather than a Black man or a Jew or any other person that it has been convenient to hate in the past. Something very seriously wrong in those people caused them to *kill* someone. And I am not sure that it is clear that you can have something that wrong with you and still be human - or that having lost it you can ever regain it. -- Laura Creighton sun!l5!laura (that is ell-five, not fifteen) l5!laura@lll-crg.arpa