Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site well.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!ucla-cs!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!well!djg From: djg@well.UUCP (David Julian Gray) Newsgroups: net.music.synth Subject: Re: CZ1000 Message-ID: <343@well.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Dec-85 16:59:31 EST Article-I.D.: well.343 Posted: Thu Dec 12 16:59:31 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Dec-85 23:23:13 EST References: <326@houxs.UUCP> Reply-To: djg@well.UUCP (David Julian Gray) Followup-To: on-going multi-tibral synth discussions Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 57 Keywords: Casio, CZ, MIDI Summary: Multi-tibre and GREAT BASS (even drums!) For under $500.00 The CASIO CZ-1000 (or 101) seems to be the best choice. I own a 101 and I couldn't be happier. I make my living on the road, playing clarinet, and this capable, inexpensive, portable, battery driven synth has been a solid companion. Make weird sounds - come home down load 'em to disc for use in MIDI orchestration. One caveat, the four independant voices (ie., omni off/mono to four monophonic midi channels) is not always convincing; Voices need a lot of delay to work in mono mode (to my ear). >1. How much did you pay for it? Have you seen it cheaper anywhere? I've seen $329.00 advertised nationally often; I paid $299.00 but I paid wholesale. 47th Street Photo, New York (1-800-221-7774; in NY state 212-260-4410) is advertising the CZ-101 for $269.00!!, but no support. $379.00 is a fair price to a music store that gives support. >2. Can you completely program the patches from MIDI? I use CZ-Rider by Robert Melvin from Cherry Lane Technologies (I use Apple is available also on C-64); an exemplary program it uses both a graphic and a front panel emulation for sound shaping. Get's patches to and from disc. Any change made from the computer is reflected on the synth but not vice versa. CZ-RIDER list $149.00 (Can be had for less) Computer & Music (see below) has an excellent librarian for the IBM but no patch editor yet. >3. Is the owner's/reference manual complete enough to write a MIDI sequencer /patch librarian for it? NO! The documentation's not bad for using the synth as is but certainly not complete enough to write MIDI software. Write to Casio USA (I've got this info somewhere) system exclusive specs will cost a bit. >4. What is the pitch range of the oscillators? Audibility. Sound great to me at any frequency my speakers can reproduce (six octaves programmable, but harmonics are much more.) Even better: The CASIO CZ-5000 66 key, full size keyboard, built in sequencer, the guts of TWO cz-101's inside, more durable hardware (not guts but physical switches) 47th Street Photo (New York City) advertising the 5000 for $699.00!!!!!!! Casio is about to introduce the CZ-3000, may be the best choice the 5000 sans sequencer for ~$130 less. David Julian Gray c/o Computers & Msic 1989 Junipero Serra Blvd. Daly City, CA 94014 {apple,dual,ptsfa,hplabs,netisun}!well!djg